But one thing that puzzles me, when one physical body dies the the spirit comes out of the body and the silver cord breaks, But I don't see how it can connect back together once they go back in?
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Near Death Experiences
There are both dis-advantages to Near Death Experiences.
But one thing that puzzles me, when one physical body dies the the spirit comes out of the body and the silver cord breaks, But I don't see how it can connect back together once they go back in?
But one thing that puzzles me, when one physical body dies the the spirit comes out of the body and the silver cord breaks, But I don't see how it can connect back together once they go back in?
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Re: Near Death Experiences
Maybe there is no silver cord to begin with?
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'Defination of the Silver Cord.
In light of the information
above, the soul does not
incarnate and attach to the
fetus for approximately
three months – for it takes
approximately this time for
the development of the
central nervous system. If
a miscarriage or abortion
occurs prior to this time,
I suggest there would be no
spiritual consequence
because a soul has not been
released to the spirit
world. But, if an infant
soul does go to the spirit
world, it will be adopted
by relations or spirit
parents and raised as their
own to maturity.
SOUL DEPARTING
Helen Padgett, wife of
medium:
“I had scarcely awakened to
the fact that my spirit had
left my body before my
husband’s mother had me in
her arms and was trying to
tell me that I had nothing
to fear or cause me to feel
that I was not with those
who loved me. I went with
her, and she took me to a
place that was very
beautiful and filled with
spirits who had recently
passed over.”
SPIRIT BODY
Upon death, the soul is
released from the physical
body encased in its etheric
or spirit body. This spirit
body is not a new one, but
has been with the soul
since its incarnation into
the mortal flesh. The
spirit body takes the place
of the physical body and
protects the soul during
its existence in the spirit
world. This body is made
the active energy of the
soul and reflects the
condition of the soul.
Arthur Findlay,
spiritualist author:
“It will be noticed that,
throughout these meetings
(sessions with the medium
John Slone), the etherians
mention every part of their
body, their hands, fingers,
face, lips, mouth, tongue,
throat, legs, arms, feet,
heart, head, hair, eyes and
tears, thus confirming that
the spirit body is a
duplicate of the physical
body.” Spiritualists know
this to be true because
mediums can describe spirit
loved ones with accuracy
and in considerable detail.
Francis Bacon:
”The soul’s home is in the
spirit body, whether that
body is encased in mortal
form or not. The soul is
never without its spirit
body, which, in appearance
and composition, is
determined by the state of
the soul. The soul has a
material covering and an
appearance that is real and
tangible, which changes in
appearance as the condition
of the soul changes.”
In the spirit world, there
is no deformity of the
spirit body. The blind can
see, the deaf can hear, the
amputee has his limbs. The
only afflictions that are
brought to the spirit world
are the emotional and
psychological ones, and, if
the spirit so desires,
these can be treated by
spirit physicians and
healed.
Taken from spirituailism
and beyond'
In light of the information
above, the soul does not
incarnate and attach to the
fetus for approximately
three months – for it takes
approximately this time for
the development of the
central nervous system. If
a miscarriage or abortion
occurs prior to this time,
I suggest there would be no
spiritual consequence
because a soul has not been
released to the spirit
world. But, if an infant
soul does go to the spirit
world, it will be adopted
by relations or spirit
parents and raised as their
own to maturity.
SOUL DEPARTING
Helen Padgett, wife of
medium:
“I had scarcely awakened to
the fact that my spirit had
left my body before my
husband’s mother had me in
her arms and was trying to
tell me that I had nothing
to fear or cause me to feel
that I was not with those
who loved me. I went with
her, and she took me to a
place that was very
beautiful and filled with
spirits who had recently
passed over.”
SPIRIT BODY
Upon death, the soul is
released from the physical
body encased in its etheric
or spirit body. This spirit
body is not a new one, but
has been with the soul
since its incarnation into
the mortal flesh. The
spirit body takes the place
of the physical body and
protects the soul during
its existence in the spirit
world. This body is made
the active energy of the
soul and reflects the
condition of the soul.
Arthur Findlay,
spiritualist author:
“It will be noticed that,
throughout these meetings
(sessions with the medium
John Slone), the etherians
mention every part of their
body, their hands, fingers,
face, lips, mouth, tongue,
throat, legs, arms, feet,
heart, head, hair, eyes and
tears, thus confirming that
the spirit body is a
duplicate of the physical
body.” Spiritualists know
this to be true because
mediums can describe spirit
loved ones with accuracy
and in considerable detail.
Francis Bacon:
”The soul’s home is in the
spirit body, whether that
body is encased in mortal
form or not. The soul is
never without its spirit
body, which, in appearance
and composition, is
determined by the state of
the soul. The soul has a
material covering and an
appearance that is real and
tangible, which changes in
appearance as the condition
of the soul changes.”
In the spirit world, there
is no deformity of the
spirit body. The blind can
see, the deaf can hear, the
amputee has his limbs. The
only afflictions that are
brought to the spirit world
are the emotional and
psychological ones, and, if
the spirit so desires,
these can be treated by
spirit physicians and
healed.
Taken from spirituailism
and beyond'
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Hope the above helps....
skye- Member
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It can't. Once it is severed death occurs instantly.Auras wrote:There are both dis-advantages to Near Death Experiences.
But one thing that puzzles me, when one physical body dies the the spirit comes out of the body and the silver cord breaks, But I don't see how it can connect back together once they go back in?
Those people who experience NDE's do not actually die as the cord is never broken. It could be said it's the same process as when we visit the spirit world during our sleep time, it's just that many are unable to remember this. Yet none have been known to have any difficulty connecting to their body and continue to live their normal everyday life after these events.
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Auras wrote:There are both dis-advantages to Near Death Experiences.
But one thing that puzzles me, when one physical body dies the the spirit comes out of the body and the silver cord breaks, But I don't see how it can connect back together once they go back in?
With an NDE the physical body does not die. It stops breathing the heart may stop beating but it is not dead, the spirit has just left for a short while until it comes back, if it doesn't, then the physical body dies. And the cord is not silver, it is an energy stream that follows the spirit out of the body.
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Auras wrote:There are both dis-advantages to Near Death Experiences.
But one thing that puzzles me, when one physical body dies the the spirit comes out of the body and the silver cord breaks, But I don't see how it can connect back together once they go back in?
The silver cords breaks and separates from the physical body..like the umbilican cord does to a new born baby.. The soul leaves from the top of the head...I think,not sure of this.
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http://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/mindandbody/what-it-feels-like-to-nearly-die-by-the-people-who-came-close-to-it/ar-BBpntLA?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignoutmd
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OMG now there are three types of death??
1. In a clinical death, it is only the heart that stops beating,
2. In a biological death, the organs (such as liver, kidneys, pancreas, etc.) stop functioning.
3. In an organic death, the brain starts dying off.
Makes sense I suppose but then is 1 really dying, but near death instead? For me it is like the spirit has started to leave the physical body , it is travelling but still intimately linked and so can be brought back or decide to go back to the physical.
After the panic and chest pain it was peaceful, beautiful, calm. Then back to agony again and panic.
I liked this part "“In a clinical death, it is only the heart that stops beating, and this is the type that has yielded the near death experience accounts, only because the other two types of death are deeper and more likely irreversible, and, even if people could come back from them, they would not be functional enough to tell their story."
Some people are brought back to life but are still really dead and in that awfully descriptive vegetative state. I feel that it is only man that causes this state.
1. In a clinical death, it is only the heart that stops beating,
2. In a biological death, the organs (such as liver, kidneys, pancreas, etc.) stop functioning.
3. In an organic death, the brain starts dying off.
Makes sense I suppose but then is 1 really dying, but near death instead? For me it is like the spirit has started to leave the physical body , it is travelling but still intimately linked and so can be brought back or decide to go back to the physical.
After the panic and chest pain it was peaceful, beautiful, calm. Then back to agony again and panic.
I liked this part "“In a clinical death, it is only the heart that stops beating, and this is the type that has yielded the near death experience accounts, only because the other two types of death are deeper and more likely irreversible, and, even if people could come back from them, they would not be functional enough to tell their story."
Some people are brought back to life but are still really dead and in that awfully descriptive vegetative state. I feel that it is only man that causes this state.
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http://www.nderf.org/
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Does anyone know where Josh is now?
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mac wrote:Does anyone know where Josh is now?
Awwh GMTA I hoped he had replied to this thread but it was you Mac. Well maybe he will pick up on our thinking about him x
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He is young....maybe he got a life!
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sorry to disappoint you...Crystal wrote:mac wrote:Does anyone know where Josh is now?
Awwh GMTA I hoped he had replied to this thread but it was you Mac. Well maybe he will pick up on our thinking about him x
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I hope that's all it is... I was rather fond of him even though what I wrote often rubbed him the wrong way. I hope he's now doing well. Matters of the spirit fit better into an older-adult lifestyle in my view.ameliorate wrote:He is young....maybe he got a life!
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mac wrote:I hope that's all it is... I was rather fond of him even though what I wrote often rubbed him the wrong way. I hope he's now doing well. Matters of the spirit fit better into an older-adult lifestyle in my view.ameliorate wrote:He is young....maybe he got a life!
Was a pleasant disappointment lol, ... older and very young?
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Guides widely accepted as spiritually advanced have explained that death of the physical body occurs at the point when the so-called silver cord is severed. I prefer their guidance on such matters rather than uninformed conjecture.It takes 72 hours for the silver cord to sever,you are still dead,as soon as you die physically,as in no heartbeat or brain activity,but mainly the the heart stops pumping then you really are dead,but time is only relative to this world,this earth,you can die for a few minutes before you are revived and have no brain damage if you are lucky from lack of oxygen!
But during an OBE or NDE time is irrelevant in the next world,I know this from multiple experiences,but out of our bodies seems to last forever,though we may only be dead for 10 seconds earth time.
But its 72 hours for the silver cord to sever completely.
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Do you always play the fool?
It probably doesn't much matter what you write - thankfully - because there are few likely to be influenced by your home-grown ideas.
Nonetheless some of them need to be rebuffed and an authoritative source's explanation provided for balance.
Is that approach what you see as trolling? If so then I am indeed a troll, fol dee roll....
It probably doesn't much matter what you write - thankfully - because there are few likely to be influenced by your home-grown ideas.
Nonetheless some of them need to be rebuffed and an authoritative source's explanation provided for balance.
Is that approach what you see as trolling? If so then I am indeed a troll, fol dee roll....
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Maybe that's because adults have a better understanding, perhaps?mac wrote:I hope that's all it is... I was rather fond of him even though what I wrote often rubbed him the wrong way. I hope he's now doing well. Matters of the spirit fit better into an older-adult lifestyle in my view.ameliorate wrote:He is young....maybe he got a life!
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How are you doing, Josh? Good to hear from you after all this time....
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I'm doing great, Mac. How about you?mac wrote:How are you doing, Josh? Good to hear from you after all this time....
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Auras wrote:I'm doing great, Mac. How about you?mac wrote:How are you doing, Josh? Good to hear from you after all this time....
Not bad for an old fart, thanks! lol
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The cord doesn't break until you are totally deadAuras wrote:There are both dis-advantages to Near Death Experiences.
But one thing that puzzles me, when one physical body dies the the spirit comes out of the body and the silver cord breaks, But I don't see how it can connect back together once they go back in?
Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.