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Spirit Guide vs Power animal vs Animal Totem vs Spirit Animal
Auras- Member
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The differences between a spirit guide and a power animal. Well, Technically their is no difference because a power animal is a spirit guide in animal form. According to shamanic journeying when you enter a altered state of conscious. They may show negativity towards since that animal is a part of you. So all its doing is reflecting your emotions so you know what you're up against. We can have upto 7 of these. All with different meanings to them. If you work with them on a regular basis then you will that your person life will be getting better and better due to the amount of support you are getting from this power animal. According to te native americans they call them animal totems or spirit animals. But it all terms, they merely mean the same thing.
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What I think all this is, is these are all emotions that develop within us. Emotions as the word itself implicates are emotive in nature and contain a lot of creative energy. If we make friends with these, their power will help us. This is potentially good but is potentially dangerous as well. We are talking an awful lot of power here.Auras wrote:The differences between a spirit guide and a power animal. Well, Technically their is no difference because a power animal is a spirit guide in animal form. According to shamanic journeying when you enter a altered state of conscious. They may show negativity towards since that animal is a part of you. So all its doing is reflecting your emotions so you know what you're up against. We can have upto 7 of these. All with different meanings to them. If you work with them on a regular basis then you will that your person life will be getting better and better due to the amount of support you are getting from this power animal. According to te native americans they call them animal totems or spirit animals. But it all terms, they merely mean the same thing.
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Hello, dear. I've seen many debates over the fact that people are saying our emotions is the reason w have. An power animal etcc.. I personally disagree with them partly simply because I've been on a journey and that journey felt like it was reality. I mean I've travelled to the spirit realm. But main my question is... Is the guide a a spiritual being or just made up of creative emotionsWhat I think all this is, is these are all emotions that develop within us. Emotions as the word itself implicates are emotive in nature and contain a lot of creative energy. If we make friends with these, their power will help us. This is potentially good but is potentially dangerous as well. We are talking an awful lot of power here.
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My dear, this IS the Spirit realm. All is.Auras wrote:Hello, dear. I've seen many debates over the fact that people are saying our emotions is the reason w have. An power animal etcc.. I personally disagree with them partly simply because I've been on a journey and that journey felt like it was reality. I mean I've travelled to the spirit realm. But main my question is... Is the guide a a spiritual being or just made up of creative emotionsWhat I think all this is, is these are all emotions that develop within us. Emotions as the word itself implicates are emotive in nature and contain a lot of creative energy. If we make friends with these, their power will help us. This is potentially good but is potentially dangerous as well. We are talking an awful lot of power here.
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No, this is the physical realm
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Only if this is all you can see here. The Spirit dear is everywhere.Auras wrote:No, this is the physical realm
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Ok here's a question......
Expalin spirit and earthbound spirits.
Expalin spirit and earthbound spirits.
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I'll do what I can. Spirit is Spirit, not bound. However sometimes Spirits forget they are pure Spirit and project and immerse themselves into the physical and just get so involved with it that they temporarily forget that they are Spirits. There may be a realm of pure Spirit that you have visited, so the physical seems removed, but the Spirit is still in everyone and everything, just sometimes gets a bit lost for a while.Auras wrote:Ok here's a question......
Explain spirit and earthbound spirits.
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You've proved no point that the physical realm is the spirit realm. Their is unircorns, fae, elvea. They have their own realm which is is called dimensional travelling. Yet, their is lots of nature spirits on earth. Doesn't mean the spirit realm in on earth.
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Well, to be honest, I really had no point to prove. Now you tell me - what is the point of being a Shaman?
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Shamans are picked by spirits. Shamansm isn't a choice. Its more of a calling.
A shamn is A person having access to, and influence in, the world of spirits, esp. among some peoples of northern Asia and North America
A shamn is A person having access to, and influence in, the world of spirits, esp. among some peoples of northern Asia and North America
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The purpose of the Shaman is to open the mind to the new.
"The world of everyday life cannot ever be taken as something personal that has power over us, something that could make us, or destroy us, because man’s battlefield is not in his strife with the world around him. His battlefield is over the horizon, in an area which is unthinkable for an average man, the area where man ceases to be a man.”
He (don Juan Matus) explained those statements, saying that it was energetically imperative for human beings to realize that the only thing that matters is their encounter with infinity.
"The world of everyday life cannot ever be taken as something personal that has power over us, something that could make us, or destroy us, because man’s battlefield is not in his strife with the world around him. His battlefield is over the horizon, in an area which is unthinkable for an average man, the area where man ceases to be a man.”
He (don Juan Matus) explained those statements, saying that it was energetically imperative for human beings to realize that the only thing that matters is their encounter with infinity.
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The blind leading the blind....
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uh oh...is Mac having a bad day?
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What has that do with the topic?mac wrote:The blind leading the blind....
This was the topic.
The differences between a spirit guide and a power animal. Well, Technically their is no difference because a power animal is a spirit guide in animal form. According to shamanic journeying when you enter a altered state of conscious. They may show negativity towards since that animal is a part of you. So all its doing is reflecting your emotions so you know what you're up against. We can have up to 7 of these. All with different meanings to them. If you work with them on a regular basis then you will that your person life will be getting better and better due to the amount of support you are getting from this power animal. According to the native Americans they call them animal totems or spirit animals. But it all terms, they merely mean the same thing.
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Its an attempt.......
Remember............ooohhhhhmmmmmm
Remember............ooohhhhhmmmmmm
Auras- Member
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The big MAC is finally Back... Lol.
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Even if a Spirit Guide is totally made up, it is still a real spirit. A Spirit Animal is usually a real animal that came to you in real life. This can happen on a Vision Quest.
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A shaman is a word from Siberian origin that makes a convenient umbrella term for anthropologist to lump all native medicine into one category. If you want to be a medicine man in my tribe, being called is only the first part of it. The second part-- you begin training under a practiced medicine person actually learning how to heal people with herbs,stories,advice, and maybe a slap of common sense when necessary.
Takes about ten years....Your not just called.....You have to answer it...Practice it....Do it...
In the old days people didn't play "shaman" much, if somebody died under their care-- They could be killed as a result..
Don't be playing.....
Takes about ten years....Your not just called.....You have to answer it...Practice it....Do it...
In the old days people didn't play "shaman" much, if somebody died under their care-- They could be killed as a result..
Don't be playing.....
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"Even if a Spirit Guide is totally made up, it is still a real spirit. A Spirit Animal is usually a real animal that came to you in real life. This can happen on a Vision Quest"
Oh that's rather interesting. How did you come to that conclusion?
Oh that's rather interesting. How did you come to that conclusion?
mac- Member
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Ah! The NDN returns! Hadn't expected that...
Auras- Member
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What do you mean mac?
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I think that is like playing with concepts that conflict so just play some street fighter or Teeken with it.
Tis the problem with learning "shamanism"... When all the cultures practices are mixed into one term they tend to contradict themselves. Most of what is gleamed from shamanic practices is the ritualistic ceremonies-- hence the typical image of a half naked shaman dancing around a campfire with a drum.
It's also why some people focus on the "shamanic journey" but disregard the herbal, physical, mental, emotional, conjuring, nature's law, and tribal laws. All of which are integral to the medicine man's knowledge.
* round one- power animal vs totem animal....... FIGHT!
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Auras wrote:What do you mean mac?
This member is well known from past times for his 'unusual' approach to forum discussions.... He knows what I mean as will some others who also know him