God does not exist

To me God does not exist;God is what is real.
Existence is temporary.What is real is where the
"I" has its roots.This means each one off us is
god.Can the god of me be known?
No.Existence can be known;what is real just is.
skfarblum

To me, god is the spark of life.
Like we need air to breathe, we need this energy too.
So, yes god is in us all.

Dear Mia,
Thank you for your comment.
I certainly agree with you.
God is our spark of life.
Have a nice day
skfarblum

skfarblum wrote:To me God does not exist;God is what is real.
Existence is temporary.What is real is where the
"I" has its roots.This means each one off us is
god.Can the god of me be known?
No.Existence can be known;what is real just is.
skfarblum

so basically what you are saying is that Existence and Reality are not one and the same but 2 different things. ok.


s

Dear Shayn,
No I don't see that Existence and The Real as truly separate.
Water is H2O.Yet it can be steam,liquid or solid.It still is H20.
the same applies to Existence and Real.
What is Real is like H20.It also can be steam(spirit),liquid(mind)and ice(existence)
Does this help?

skfarblum

P.S The water idea come from "Abu Talks"

Hi Sk.

I love these interesting posts,keep it up.

This like opposites,isn't it?

A postive and a negative.

Hi Joanie,

No not really.I will use water again to explain how I see things

There is a dam filled with water.The water is not going anywhere.It is passive;just is.


This for me is "I".It is now, in the sense it is timeless and constant.It is my

very being (god within me, or the real within me or the spirit part of me)

It is not my body,brain or personality

Now the sluice gates are opened and the water now becomes a river.This river

passes through gorges and over cliffs , develops rapids and whirlpools.

Thus it moves and does things;it is ever in motion and ever different.

As it is said one can never swim in the same river twice.It is however

still water.This is, being which is becoming..Life if one likes.

No opposites,just that "I" busy becoming an indivdual with a mind and personality


and responding to the world in its own unique way.

Once the sluice gates are opened,the water moves swiftly.

Gathering all life in it's wake.

New places,new spaces,new life.

All that is familiar to us moves back to take in new territory.

very nice Joanie

I am not usually a philosophical person but tend to look for cold hard facts.

But I do try.

For me there are only two things that are "real": consciousness and the experiences that consciousness have and God is the source of consciousness so God is the only thing that actually exist.

Dear Sapienza,
Thats sounds very nice.
Stephen

skfarblum wrote:To me God does not exist;God is what is real.
Existence is temporary.What is real is where the
"I" has its roots.This means each one off us is
god.Can the god of me be known?
No.Existence can be known;what is real just is.
skfarblum

Morning Stephen.

I've come back to your original post,Steve.

If God does not exist then who rules the universe?

I,myself think there is a celestial ruling over all that exists in our universe.

We are the 'celestion' ruling.

We rule our own lives,that's why mistakes are made in each life.

We learn through our mistakes improving our lives or life until all is perfect,then return to the Celestion ruling.

I would like to know exactly where the name 'God' came from.



Joanie

skfarblum wrote:To me God does not exist;God is what is real.
Existence is temporary.What is real is where the
"I" has its roots.This means each one off us is
god.Can the god of me be known?
No.Existence can be known;what is real just is.
skfarblum

Once you let go of enough attachments, you will find, it matters very little if a god or God exists. Just look inside and you know who and what you are. That you are one with all that is. That you are part of all that is. You can call yourself God, or god if you like, but most likely you will not.

Hi Joan,
My original statement represents a thinking at that point in time.
I do admit to regularly changing my ideas.So I give you my
revised edition.

My understanding of God is similar to the "Great Spirit" of Silver Birch.I however see a deeper,unknowable depth to
Great Spirit which is unknowable by finite sentients.This unknowingness is what is "centered everywhere but if looked for is not to be found"
There is I theorise a knowable aspect of Great Spirit or Creator .Which ,through His activity brings up creation.Creation with its laws and
limitations are sustained by Great Spirit in both his knowable and unknowable activity.
I rather think of Great Spirit in terms of knowingness and unknowingness rather than as a finite or infinite of some sort.
To say Great Spirit exists is to imply somehow a finite like myself could somehow know Great Spirit.

I see it the other way round.Great Spirit knows me therefore my knowing is really Great Spirits knowing.I can say "I am" only because
Great Spirit permeates and sustains every aspect of myself by His activity.Nevertheless Great Spirit on purpose
limits His knowingness, that allows me a certain freedom to grow,learn and create originally.

I use the word "His" only because Great Spirit is not an "It"You can name Great Spirit "Her" just as well.Probably with even greater
justification.
How does all this strike you?
Yes,all angels,gods ,spirits exist in knowingness.There is no existence in unknowingness.Unknowingness
is as it is Unknowingness.


A quick google search gave me this


"GOD - The English word God is identical with the
Anglo-Saxon word for “good,” and therefore it is believed that the name God
refers to the divine goodness. (See Oehler's Theol. of Old Test.; Strong's and
Young's concordances.) (From New
Unger's Bible Dictionary) (Originally
published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois.
Copyright (C) 1988.)"
Stephen

Dear Detief,
I respect your words and view point.I admit I am far
too attached to my body and my wants.I do , do my best to realize
what you wrote.But it is like growing up.When it happens
I am not sure I will be able to say now I am a grown up.
I still feel I am child in so many ways and I am 67 years old.
Still a really big thank you for your kind effort.
Stephen

Dear Stephen,

Can we ever "grow up", difficult to say, even if I ask parts of myself who are far beyond the level we are in at the moment.
There is always an other level.
Not to worry, you are doing fine.
Detlef

Dear Detief,
Thank you

skfarblum wrote:Hi Joan,
My original statement represents a thinking at that point in time.
I do admit to regularly changing my ideas.So I give you my
revised edition.

My understanding of God is similar to the "Great Spirit" of Silver Birch.I however see a deeper,unknowable depth to
Great Spirit which is unknowable by finite sentients.This unknowingness is what is "centered everywhere but if looked for is not to be found"
There is I theorise a knowable aspect of Great Spirit or Creator .Which ,through His activity brings up creation.Creation with its laws and
limitations are sustained by Great Spirit in both his knowable and unknowable activity.
I rather think of Great Spirit in terms of knowingness and unknowingness rather than as a finite or infinite of some sort.
To say Great Spirit exists is to imply somehow a finite like myself could somehow know Great Spirit.

I see it the other way round.Great Spirit knows me therefore my knowing is really Great Spirits knowing.I can say "I am" only because
Great Spirit permeates and sustains every aspect of myself by His activity.Nevertheless Great Spirit on purpose
limits His knowingness, that allows me a certain freedom to grow,learn and create originally.

I use the word "His" only because Great Spirit is not an "It"You can name Great Spirit "Her" just as well.Probably with even greater
justification.
How does all this strike you?
Yes,all angels,gods ,spirits exist in knowingness.There is no existence in unknowingness.Unknowingness
is as it is Unknowingness.


A quick google search gave me this


"GOD - The English word God is identical with the
Anglo-Saxon word for “good,” and therefore it is believed that the name God
refers to the divine goodness. (See Oehler's Theol. of Old Test.; Strong's and
Young's concordances.) (From New
Unger's Bible Dictionary) (Originally
published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois.
Copyright (C) 1988.)"
Stephen

You have beaten me to it there,Stephen.

I never knew where the name God originated.

Good sounds a good name for God.

What I cannot understand is God or Great Spirit is revered not only here but in the spirit world as well.

Yet we are told there is no set religion in spirit.

So I presume,we do not have to worship any 'God' or 'Great Spirit' at all.

I understand the 'I' you talking about,Stephen.

There is only one 'I' and that is each individual person.

Each to his or her own belief's.

Everyone should be entitled to their own beliefs.

Too many wars over religion,why can't the world understand that each nation is entitled to what they hold dear to.

There would no more wars.

I do agree with you that God withholds his knowledge so we can only learn through our own efforts.

Like a child in school.

As we learn,so we grow.

Thanks Stephen,a great topic.



Joan

That, can handle that [ god ] - do your self the favor and 'play hearken in trust steadie'. In know how [ gained ] 'to settle as an studlie stud'.

'Thru and thick' the answer is inside 'like an intel product machine', like a dream 'Flash' [ comic book heroe ] - get intuition mode in proven gut feelings - overcome something due your spice.

Don't let none insist [ your ] limit - ie - there are many ways to eat a mango.

At least God could score a prop for old people soup.












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I often try to imagine what God would look like if we could 'see' him or even 'her'

How would you see God?

SpiritVoices wrote:

How would you see God?

I would see God - in love - enamored. God fit by need of our high class worship show and tell and sweet issues of our honorary - page by page. I need like a baby bird on nest - bladed by mama or papa after ever all due this quick struff wild west gunslinger this world raised itself to feel it is, that i'm blind for not somehow someway recognizing real big proud stuff but my baby heart as deserve sets open gifts for just believing in what's light - right, and that is peace over calamity.


It's just what it is - you about God, and nothing unsafe like a chocolate water drink. Just bracket you're good guy cause stuff couldn't set better interesting then. Cool about your God even if it's saffire Ganesha - just looking up for rewards somehow someway.

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A lovely description of God....though I do feel sometimes when we need him/her he is not always available....

SpiritVoices wrote:A lovely description of God....though I do feel sometimes when we need him/her he is not always available....

It's just a feel to feel your above in not available - that stuff goes on on about the set on a dizzy day and thru this feel you understand that someone gave on a feat and made you feel this way - and you can recover. I feel like a that sometimes, so so I just quite pray the ''that unflavoristic [ also felt in my abdomen ] ' goes away and in goes my sunshine. Fix-it kinda wopper.




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hey while i don't believe in god either i do believe in a goddess but there are some people on here that do believe and you might offend them with this post. my family is christian i love every one and respect every religioun and peoples beliefs. light and love blessed be. .