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    Post  SpiritVoices Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:35 pm

    Has a Reincarnation ever been proved?
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    Post  innerlight Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:51 pm

    SpiritVoices wrote:Has a Reincarnation ever been proved?
    That would be in what you refer to as proven?

    I have read stories about children that have rattled off descriptions of places and homes that they have purported to have lived in before, never having been to in life, and have been correct with their descriptions.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:15 pm

    We could say that,Innerlight.

    But what about more recent cases?       
    Have you ever read or heard recently that a reincarnation has actually been proved.   
    The last reincarnation I read about was an Irish girl called Bridie Murphy.
    From way back.     Plus some children from the North of England who laid claim to reincarnation.    Sorry,cannot remember all the evidence associated with that case.

    Curiosity is getting the better of me.
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    Post  kardecian Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:28 am

    In my mind, reincarnation has been proved.  However, many people would disagree with me.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:08 am

    Hi Mike,
    How would you say 'Reincarnation' has been proved?

    :asmile: 

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    Post  kardecian Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:13 am

    Well, to me reincarnation is proved every time a youngster can sit down and play the piano like an expert without ever having touched a piano before.  Or a person who knows all about something they've never studied.  Or someone who knows a place, but they have never been there before.  These sorts of things are documented extensively, in various books, etc.  That is proof to me.
    Besides the scientific proof (and I'd consider the above scientific) there is also the religious aspect. Buddhism, Hinduism, Christian Spiritualists and other religions teach reincarnation.
    Besides, religion, common sense plays a part of it also.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:49 am

    kardecian wrote:Well, to me reincarnation is proved every time a youngster can sit down and play the piano like an expert without ever having touched a piano before.  Or a person who knows all about something they've never studied.  Or someone who knows a place, but they have never been there before.  These sorts of things are documented extensively, in various books, etc.  That is proof to me.
    Besides the scientific proof (and I'd consider the above scientific) there is also the religious aspect. Buddhism, Hinduism, Christian Spiritualists and other religions teach reincarnation.
    Besides, religion, common sense plays a part of it also.
    Now that makes sense to me.  Of course,the gifts could be passed on by talented relatives from the past.   But you have a point there,Mike.

    I'm reading a book at the moment which features the subject of past lives.  It is only fiction but goes deeply into the subject of passed lives.
    Where the main character starts to find hidden objects in different places that she had buried during one of her past lives.
    Giving proof that she had lived before.
    Only fiction but something to think about....
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    Post  kardecian Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:13 pm

    Hi Joan, You said, "Of course,the gifts could be passed on by talented relatives from the past." I've heard people say this on documentaries about reincarnation (the sort of programs such as UNSOLVED MYSTERIES, etc.)  However, I don't seen how the statement could be possible. All of the things I've mentioned above are LEARNED, not instinct.  One cannot instinctively sit down and play a piano; one cannot instinctively find a lost item; one cannot instinctively know of distant places.  These are all things that have to be EXPERIENCED and LEARNED.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:02 pm

    I see your point,Mike.   But what is the first sign that we may have had a past life?

    Memories of strange places where we feel familiar in and feel we have visited before?
    A couple of years ago a friend took me for a drive way out to a beautiful little small village in the county of Cambridgeshire but not the part I live in.
    I don't know Cambs.that well,very large county.   Knew I had never been there before.
    The village was typical of a country village,small pub,cottages etc.

    But!   I knew that village.   It was like I was home again.   The pub was familiar.
    I felt very much at home there.  Such a strong sense of coming home....

    I've never forgotten that village yet I cannot remember the name of it.

    I also feel very attracted to a piano.  I feel i want to sit down and run my fingers over the keys.    But never had a piano in my life and certainly haven't a clue how to play one.

    Now I'm wondering where I can get a 'past life' reading....:asmile:
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    Post  kardecian Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:16 pm

    Hi Joan,
    Well, you probably had lived in that small village in Cabridgeshire in the past (in another life). 
    I'm not sure we are SUPPOSED to know our past lives, and I'm not sure what to think about past life regression. I can't make a call on past life regression, as I've never studied the subject before.
    That said, I have an attraction to the first half of the 20th Century.  I feel that I was in Depression-era USA (in my 20s and 30s) and that I probably died in Germany during WWII.  I have my reasons for thinking this (dreams I've had; feelings I have for the era, etc.).  My feelings and attractions are not proof of reincarnation (they are only feelings and attractions, not knowledge), but they are interesting to me none-the-less.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:12 am

    kardecian wrote:Hi Joan,
    Well, you probably had lived in that small village in Cabridgeshire in the past (in another life). 
    I'm not sure we are SUPPOSED to know our past lives, and I'm not sure what to think about past life regression. I can't make a call on past life regression, as I've never studied the subject before.
    That said, I have an attraction to the first half of the 20th Century.  I feel that I was in Depression-era USA (in my 20s and 30s) and that I probably died in Germany during WWII.  I have my reasons for thinking this (dreams I've had; feelings I have for the era, etc.).  My feelings and attractions are not proof of reincarnation (they are only feelings and attractions, not knowledge), but they are interesting to me none-the-less.
    I feel that feelings are carried over from an incarnation from the period we lived in at that time.   Not so much memories but a strong opinions about what we liked or didn't like.    A small example is Photos or Greeting cards.

    I see something which reminds of the Victorian age and am flooded with nostalgia.   Clothes for instance.  I also get a picture in my mind of a tall man with a merry disposition and  good father to our children.
    Why should I remember that?
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    Post  becklyn37 Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:59 am

    Joan, have you heard of the James Leiniger case?  (I'm not sure if I spelled the last name correctly)  A young boy that was fascinated with WWII recalled his past life as a fighter pilot who was shot down during the war.  Here's the website, I'm not sure how to post links but here goes:    http://www.ianlawton.com/cpl3.htm

    This is the most fascinating case, and I feel it is proof.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:44 am

    No,I haven't heard of him,sounds interesting...
    Sorry your link won't come up...I'll look it up on the internet.
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    Post  kardecian Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:51 am

    I saw a program on the James Leiniger case.  It was very convincing.
    becklyn37 wrote:Joan, have you heard of the James Leiniger case?  (I'm not sure if I spelled the last name correctly)  A young boy that was fascinated with WWII recalled his past life as a fighter pilot who was shot down during the war.  Here's the website, I'm not sure how to post links but here goes:    http://www.ianlawton.com/cpl3.htm

    This is the most fascinating case, and I feel it is proof.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:24 am

    Now there's an interesting case.

    Reminds me of a dream I had a few years ago....
    I put it on here somewhere...will see if I can dig it up.
    Hearing a voice speak to in German,clear as a bell.
    Then the dreams followed.....
    of the 2nd World War.....
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    Post  SoulSurge Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:10 am

    I think reincarnation has been proven just by researching my own memories from my past life.  I think it's been proven to me because it's what I believe.  I think reincarnation is one of things that you either believe in or don't.  What I see as proof, you may not.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:35 pm

    SoulSurge wrote:I think reincarnation has been proven just by researching my own memories from my past life.  I think it's been proven to me because it's what I believe.  I think reincarnation is one of things that you either believe in or don't.  What I see as proof, you may not.
    Oh,I believe in Reincarnation.    Only because it makes sense.   To live each life as a lesson to be learned from previous lives.  The families we are born into are part of those previous lives.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:53 pm

    Reincarnation are lives we live to build our spirituality and improve each life as we live it.
    The life itself means nothing, it is how we we live it.
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    Post  Auras Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:34 pm

    If you can prove it to yourself then you have nothing to worry about. Though. You're always going to come across people that say "when we die its a long sleep".

    "Knowing" you've been some where is like deja vu, But the question is, its not deja vu. To my belief you're seeing a place you have been when you was in your previous. Because if study akashic record. You will leare that our thoughts, actions are stored, and to be able to acess, all you need to do is learn how to astral project.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:42 pm

    I like your answer,Auras.     

    Excellent.
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    Post  Auras Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:52 pm

    I try my best. :Giggles:
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    Post  kardecian Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:26 pm

    I think the conscience is proof of reincarnation. Conscience is  defined as "The sense of right and wrong: the sense of what is right and wrong that governs somebody's thoughts and actions, urging him or her to do right rather than wrong obedience to conscience: behavior according to what your sense of right and wrong tells you is right"  Some may say that if you have no memory of a past life, then you have no proof of a past life.  But, the conscience is given to guide us in this life; your conscience is the foot prints of past lives. For instance, if you feel guilty about stealing (your conscience), that is because you know that stealing is wrong from past experience.  Some have more of a conscience than others. This is because they are more highly progressed in spirit.  So, Conscience is really subtle memories from past lives that are impressed upon us from life to life to direct us onward and upward.
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    Post  RavenMoon Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:07 pm

    Dr Brian Weiss has studied and written some wonderfull books on the subject.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:19 pm

    RavenMoon wrote:Dr Brian Weiss has studied and written some wonderfull books on the subject.
    Fantastic!   I'm reading one at the moment....just can't put it down.
    The one titled 'Same Soul,Many Bodies' by Brian Weiss.

    Why I haven't been on the forums much recently.....:giggles: 
    So much information about reincarnation that I have never known.    How so many lives are lived over and over again with the same families  but different roles in each life.

    What's the title of his other book,RavenMoon?   
    Just got to get hold of that book as well.:asmile:
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    Post  RavenMoon Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:23 pm

    SpiritVoices wrote:
    RavenMoon wrote:Dr Brian Weiss has studied and written some wonderfull books on the subject.
    Fantastic!   I'm reading one at the moment....just can't put it down.
    The one titled 'Same Soul,Many Bodies' by Brian Weiss.

    Why I haven't been on the forums much recently.....:giggles: 
    So much information about reincarnation that I have never known.    How so many lives are lived over and over again with the same families  but different roles in each life.

    What's the title of his other book,RavenMoon?   
    Just got to get hold of that book as well.:asmile:
    he has done many books...... By the way These are NOT Fiction - they are true case studies.
    Now I have  One of those Ebook machines  I am hoping to catch up with more of his work...

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