Eaglesham Puma Attacks ballageich Hill....

lostgrail wrote:Long before I even knew about online psychic and//or mediumistic chat sites our family were off working for a farmer in Perthshire and therefore at that time missed going to "the huts" south of east kilbride.((Which usually we went to every summer)).In that area John Stewart got up very early at his farm to find to his horror five of his geese had been killed ----this was at Ballageich Hill ((which is often the reference name given to the farm)) but I got name of it amidst my papers and notes.He and his wife had an alsatian dog who was found hiding in a corner.((Although most of the farms in the area had black and white sheep-dogs which I still have as my favourite type of dog)).There had already been many reports of puma-like creatures moving around Renfrewshire and Ayrshire.I always remembered it as "the time I missed the puma".Anyway the surrounding six-foot had been ripped apart at a part of the fence to get at the geese.Richard o"Grady who was director of Calderpark zoo identified the deep tracks made by a stream some way from the farm as puma like.
   When we were in the area we had moved across country and had crossed those streams or "burns" and had only thought we saw group of dogs running around way in the distance.Also not just in our area but over two counties there were stories of puma sightings like the one where a woman saw a odd looking creature staring at her on her garden wall when she took her small dog in her arms and backed off indoors while the animal just looked at her then ran off.But in the case of Ballageich the puma or whatever it was had torn into a high protective fence which experts said was not needed since pumas can jump up to great heights.In addition the animal had not fed on the geese and the state of terror of the dog took some time for steward and his wife to calm down.

lostgrail wrote:I do remember at the time of the puma that there was every reason to see the puma and such like incidents to be viewed as animals that were let loose and this makes sense.Most of this stuff may well be this only one wonders if any "of this sort of thing"is interdimensional in any way.there is for me the question that if any are dimensional does that mean we can say spiritual.I have to ask that question since I wonder about other dimensions being in the physical realities rather than the spiritual.Because there is so much to the physical universe----I read that ...'''infinite''' other universes make the multiple universes come together to make up the alternate universes. Multiple alternate universes, mega universes, multiple mega universes, super mega universes, super multiple mega universes, ultra universes, multiple ultra universes, ultra multiple ultra universes, ultra multi ultra universe which make up a multiverse. …
  Therefore it might be difficult to say the puma is spiritual unless it from spiritual realms we or more likely I don"t understand.Or indeed ghost animals from the dim past or residual energies that come out in such forms.Thus I stand uncertain about boundaries between spiritual physical  and intermensional.Nevertheless regarding the dimensional we get interdimensional hypothesis (IDH or IH), is an idea advanced by Ufologists such as Jacques Vallée that says unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and related events involve visitations from other "realities" or "dimensions" that coexist separately alongside our own. It is an alternative to the extraterrestrial hypothesis (ETH). IDH also holds that UFOs are a modern manifestation of a phenomenon that has occurred throughout recorded human history, which in prior ages were ascribed to mythological or supernatural creatures.Some advocate IDH because it fits the explanation of UFOs as a spiritistic phenomenon.There is some thinking that some of the strange animal sightings are interdimensional and thus the link to spiritual----although there might be said to be some confusion between the
physical universe,interdimensional and spiritual.

mac wrote:"Now is where we should bring Detlef in. Another member on here.  I'm talking about the different dimensions. Realities or dimensions."

We've been doing just fine by ourselves thus far.        I don't see any need to 'bring in' anyone although naturally the informed input from any regular contributor will always be welcome....

mac wrote:The 'pick a definition' game is one any of us can play - lol.     But it doesn't particularly help here because as individuals we'll have our own view about what constitutes 'spiritual'.  

Definitions aren't necessarily absolute and dictionaries also reflect changing usage.  There are varying ways that the word 'spiritual' gets used, in much the same way that the use of the words medium, mediumship and spirit varies. 

A pratical example of how usage varies is where the word 'medium' may be used in the USA to describe a person who in another country might be see as a psychic; or in the way that 'channelling' may be used rather than mediumship.  

We can try to dictate the way that words and language are used but we're largely doomed to failure if we do.  

lostgrail wrote:Not wasting time going round in circles with mac