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    Post  Spirit Guide Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:19 am

    Dear members of the Forum,

    If you ask an average person if he believes in UFO's,he will usually only take his own experience(or his lack of experience!) as a criterium.
    'UFO's do not exist,because I have never seen one!",he will declare.
    But a few years ago Larry King hosted a show on CNN,which you can watch on Youtube,in which highly placed military officers and other people involved,made the astounding and mind-boggling statement,that UFO's had been spotted in the vicinity of nuclear missile bases in the United States.
    Moreover,they had turned the missiles of,so they were put off line(!)

    I dare everybody to watch this show,and then declare,that there's nothing to the phenomenon.
    More and more pilots,police officers,military personell and even astronauts have witnessed them and have come to the opinion,that UFO's are real and that they must be considered to be of intelligent and alien origin.

    If you find your life very boring,think about these facts from time to time.
    That will give you a fresh look at reality!
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    Post  Guest Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:43 am

    Do you have the link, please?
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    Post  Spirit Guide Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:55 am

    Dear Dilletante,
    Unfortunately,I don't have the specific link.But if you search for "Larry King"on Youtube,you see a list of the issues of the program.
    I wish You good luck!
    Thanks for the reaction.

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    Post  mia Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:29 am

    I believe.
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    Post  gilly Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:36 am

    Hello Mia

    What is it you believe exactly??

    That UFO's are real! yes I believe in UFO's.

    That there are Aliens visiting Earth! No evidence that will stand up that I have seen so far.

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    Post  mia Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:42 am

    Believe me or not, but I have been on a 'ufo' I have communicated telepathically with other beings (aliens) and Astralled to Arcturus, where I have communicated with one adult being and met 3 of the children.
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    Post  mia Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:46 am

    Also, I drove past a military building deep in the countryside and knew/felt there were 'aliens' there.
    I then was told, telepathically not to speak of them there.
    Each time I think of this, it was 2 years ago, I feel a thick heavy feeling in my head.
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    Post  Spirit Guide Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:15 pm

    Dear Mia,
    I am very interested in your experience.You say you have been aboard a UFO and they took you to another planet.
    Was that a long time ago,or did that happen recently?
    If that would have happened to me,it would have shocked me to the core and maybe I wouldn't be able to talk about my mind-boggling experience.
    How did you deal with the fear and the confusion?

    I'm eagerly awaiting your reply,
    Godspeed,
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    Post  mia Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:18 pm

    No, they didn't take me to another planet.
    I astralled to Arcturus myself.
    And I was nervous when I found myself on the spacecraft, as soon as I panicked, I knew no more til morning.
    I went there 3 or 4 nights running and wasn't scared then, in fact I was disappointed when I went no more.
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    Post  Spirit Guide Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:59 pm

    Dear Mia,
    You say you astralled to Arcturus yourself.
    Does that mean you have the capacity to leave your body at will?
    I tried to do this for years and years,but I never succeeded.How did you go about developing thyis ability?
    Or did it happen spontaneously at first and were you scared?

    Warm Greetings,
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    Post  mia Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:03 pm

    I spose I can leave at will.
    I have always done it, but didn't know it was called astralling.
    No, I am never scared when doing things like this.
    I love it.
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    Post  Carolyn Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:11 pm

    I believe in them because I've seen them, multiple times. I've been aboard ships, in dreams. They've come for samples of tissue (between the ages of 7-30 in my case, from about 4-current in my second childs case, why they just choose her out of all my children I dont know). I get the feeling that you posted about the Larry King interview just to find people here who have had UFO experiences. If you seriously want to learn more, PM me.
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    Post  mia Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:19 pm

    Hi Carolyn :)
    I am one who didn't have any invasive treatment.
    I was shown a few things and was used to put together instruments.
    I felt at one with them.
    I am from Arcturus xx
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    Post  Carolyn Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:52 pm

    My "being used" was not pleasant at all. I grew to not be afraid of being taken, because I knew not to be afraid by the time I was about 22 years old. Prior to 22, I think I fought every time, despite not being able to fight. I'd be interested to know how you were taken. I was always paralysed, could'nt move or talk, and communicated telepathically with the tall beings I came to refer to as "doctors", because they always took samples. When I was 7 they took samples from the vitreous fluid of my right eye, behind my permanent teeth (my first permanent teeth), and inserted something into my left elbow. I assume that was for tracking purposes, because God knows that I've moved all over the country and they found me where ever I was. Later at age 21 when I broke my left elbow, it showed up on x-ray as a triangular, soft cornered object made out of metal. Very tiny, would never have been found if I had broken my arm even an inch higher than I did because it has never caused me pain or discomfort - once the itching stopped when it was inserted at age 7 (I remember it itched for weeks). They took me once about age 11, and once about age 16, and when I was 20, 22, 26 (that time I woke up wearing the wrong clothes), 28, 29, multiple times at age 30-31 because they were taking my second daughter by that time, I believe the last time was when I was age 33. After that they focused on just my daughter. She's 16 now. Thankfully she can tell me about her "dreams" without fear of being judged or criticized.
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    Post  Spirit Guide Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:59 pm

    Dear Mia,

    Is there any advice or any technique you can recommend to people like me,who have never experienced this phenomenon?
    And do you think that my own(subconscious)fear is holding me back from experiencing an OBE?

    Awaiting your reply eagerly.
    Greetings!
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    Post  mia Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:10 pm

    Spirit Guide,
    I have been thinking how I go.
    All I can say is, I sit in a light meditative state, think of where I want to go and sort of push off.
    I do ask guides and angels to be with me and to protect me.
    There is no need to fear anything, just relax and enjoy.

    I like going into nature, a tree or in the earth.
    It is so relaxing and rejuvenating.
    I really should do it more often.

    When in my circle, my tutor says we should also ensure we are not disturbed, I have never had any trouble with this, then again, I usually tell them I am busy.
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    Post  mia Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:12 pm

    Carolyn, I have pm'd you xx
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    Post  mac Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:16 pm

    Spirit Guide wrote:Dear members of the Forum,

    If you ask an average person if he believes in UFO's,he will usually only take his own experience(or his lack of experience!) as a criterium.
    'UFO's do not exist,because I have never seen one!",he will declare.
    But a few years ago Larry King hosted a show on CNN,which you can watch on Youtube,in which highly placed military officers and other people involved,made the astounding and mind-boggling statement,that UFO's had been spotted in the vicinity of nuclear missile bases in the United States.
    Moreover,they had turned the missiles of,so they were put off line(!)

    I dare everybody to watch this show,and then declare,that there's nothing to the phenomenon.
    More and more pilots,police officers,military personell and even astronauts have witnessed them and have come to the opinion,that UFO's are real and that they must be considered to be of intelligent and alien origin.

    If you find your life very boring,think about these facts from time to time.
    That will give you a fresh look at reality!

    "If you find your life very boring,think about these facts from time to time.
    That will give you a fresh look at reality!"
    Maybe that's the issue? Folk want to believe in extra-terrestrial aliens for an element of something different from the routine of everyday life, for the fantasy and excitement it generates for them.....

    Please don't misunderstand me though. I'm not nay-saying there's intelligent life elsewhere in the multiverse but only that these alleged sightings aren't proving it. Of course there are intelligent entities living elsewhere and of course they come from the source just as we do - the source being God as many understand that word.

    What's highly uncertain though is whether these entities also live in the frequency bands in which we humankind live. Could their seeming physical presence simply be down to the proximity of their dimension and our own, their apparently-solid presence being nothing of the sort?

    There has yet to emerge any hard evidence - literally as well as figuratively hard - of their presence in this dimension, an effect or residue which is conclusively extraterrestrially alien. Even though there may be some impact it always appears to be transient and momentary and that suggests to me that these beings are in a different dimension to ours because that's just the nature of the effects caused in certain kinds of physical mediumship.

    I don't disbelieve extra-terrestrials exist, only that they can't interact with us in the way some folk hope or wish; and they may never do.
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    Post  mia Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:22 pm

    Hello Mac :)
    I myself don't feel the need to prove to others of their existance.
    I have my truths, my beliefs.
    I know what happens to me.
    One can take what resonates and leave the rest or all of it :)
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    Post  mac Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:43 pm

    mia wrote:Hello Mac :)
    I myself don't feel the need to prove to others of their existance.
    I have my truths, my beliefs.
    I know what happens to me.
    One can take what resonates and leave the rest or all of it :)

    You don't need to prove the existence of extraterrestrial aliens to others? Did I suggest you did....?

    As for one's truths and beliefs, well I prefer neither of those concepts. The truth is invariable and unchanging although any one individual's appreciation of it may be very different from any one other individual's!

    When there's any suggestion of a 'personal truth' it suggests (to me) a defensive, entrenched, possibly blinkered and/or myopic approach. I agree with the principle of taking that which resonates for oneself but only when the guidance comes from individuals whose own understanding is greater.

    What's that saying "Wise men think alike but fools seldom differ."
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    Post  Carolyn Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:25 pm

    Folk want to believe in
    extra-terrestrial aliens for an element of something different from the
    routine of everyday life, for the fantasy and excitement it generates
    for them.....

    I never found any excitement or fantasy in the act of being taken or especially in watching my child go through it. Theres nothing supernatural about it, theres nothing paranormal about it, if its normal to you. I can see how, if your seeing the facts from the outside in, you can have the perception you do, be thankful you CAN doubt. I would give anything to doubt it. When you wake up wearing clothes that arent yours (and that don't even fit), you don't have that luxury.
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    Post  Spirit Guide Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:32 pm

    Dear Carolyn,
    Did you receive my private message?
    If not,I'll have to write you a new one.

    Greetings!
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    Post  Carolyn Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:42 pm

    I just replied to both you and mia.
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    Post  mac Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:54 pm

    Carolyn wrote:
    Folk want to believe in
    extra-terrestrial aliens for an element of something different from the
    routine of everyday life, for the fantasy and excitement it generates
    for them.....

    I never found any excitement or fantasy in the act of being taken or especially in watching my child go through it. Theres nothing supernatural about it, theres nothing paranormal about it, if its normal to you. I can see how, if your seeing the facts from the outside in, you can have the perception you do, be thankful you CAN doubt. I would give anything to doubt it. When you wake up wearing clothes that arent yours (and that don't even fit), you don't have that luxury.

    Now you've quoted what I wrote but have gone one to say "Theres nothing supernatural about it, theres nothing paranormal about it, if its normal to you...." Who mentioned either of these words? Certainly not I...

    But you're wrong in suggesting that folk don't find elements of the subjects I suggested. I wasn't speaking about you personally as well you know but you've turned it round to be about yourself and what you're claiming.

    I'm not doubting what you're saying but what you're suggesting is unsupported objectively unless you can show the evidence of what happened. I'm not doubting you but like many I'd need something I could test before I'd be persuaded - I'm like that with most issues here and elsewhere if you read my many other contributions.


    What happened - and I think I'm understanding what you're getting at - is unproven although I don't disbelieve what you're telling us.
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    Post  Carolyn Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:45 pm

    I have medical documentation of the "scoop" scar behind my front top teeth from when I was 7 and they took samples of, what were then, my only permanent teeth. I don't have medical documentation from my opthamologist of the vitreous fluid being taken because that leaves no scar, but the opthomologist has told me that my white knuckled, hyperventilation physical response to having a glaucoma test (which I have only been able to stomach sitting thru three times in my entire life), is not uncommon for people who have told him that they had dreams of being taken by aliens and something injected in their eye. My implant is available to be seen on xray, as it was found on x-ray December 13, 1991 - if you would like to see it, I'd be glad to have it x-rayed at your expense, but I'm not having the thing removed because my exhusbands implant, when it was removed, was simply replaced a few weeks after. I have no desire for a repeat of that experience. They havent come for me in 9 years, I'd prefer it to stay that way. I'm sorry for speaking out so bluntly, but you did generalize your statement to include all people who were believers in UFO's, so that did include me.

    Is speaking publicly such a taboo topic that a person has to be made to feel pointed out even among an open minded, supposedly non-prejudiced forum? To speak about the actual presence of UFO's is taboo even among the spiritual community, which makes no sense. I don't go to UFO forums because the majority of people there are either extremely angry, or extremely skeptical (and only there to bash because the lack of evidence that some people are willing to give). Very few are actual abductees (I hate that word, makes a person appear vulnerable). I can say that over the 13 years I have had a computer with internet, I've met only 3 other people who had medical evidence to back up their claim of being taken. It makes me SO angry that my child has to endure the same tests being done, the same feeling of not knowing when the next time will be, the same fear of waking up in a strange place, and most of all - the fear that when SHE has a child, guess what - the pattern has a 1 in 4 chance that it will continue, because for some reason, something in our DNA is important.

    Geeze....evidently I needed that vent.

    I'm sorry for lashing out. Ban me, block me, whatever you want to do. I'm owning up to the fact that I'm at fault. But I'm not sorry for what I said.

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