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Not my thing really, but I wondered what people think will happen in 2012?
Not my thing really, but I wondered what people think will happen in 2012?
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SpiritVoices
sparkly
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Viking
Lynn
AngelTony
Panda
mac
Mal5252
Akyana
innerlight
Raven
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Kaere
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2012...
Violet- Admin
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Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.
sparkly- Member
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plenty of doom and gloom in flood affected australia, quake affected christchurch, gaddaffi affected libya...
you can ignore it if you want, the message isn't meant for everyone.
quite right tony, say what you like, but you gotta acknowledge all these ancients with an alligned date....
you can ignore it if you want, the message isn't meant for everyone.
quite right tony, say what you like, but you gotta acknowledge all these ancients with an alligned date....
Viking- Member
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What message, sparkly? Why is it not meant for everyone? For whom is it meant then?
SpiritVoices- Member
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Same here,Mac. What will happen will happen,nowt we can do about it.mac wrote:Call me an ostrich if you like but I won't be changin' any of my plans on the strength of what 2012 is being bulled up to herald.
Deepwaters- Member
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Why are we worrying about what will happen in 2012 when there is so much going on in the world now? Natural catastrophes, the Arab countries rising up against dictatorship... we need to focus our attention on what's happening in the present. Surely what evolves in 2012 is in our own hands today? Our actions now will define our future.
We could take the 'predictions' as a warning to take heed and be aware that the choice is ours, that if we do nothing to improve the state of world affairs then we could indeed be headed toward annihilation (think nuclear war, for instance). It only takes one madman to press the red button...
We could take the 'predictions' as a warning to take heed and be aware that the choice is ours, that if we do nothing to improve the state of world affairs then we could indeed be headed toward annihilation (think nuclear war, for instance). It only takes one madman to press the red button...
AngelTony- Member
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What is interesting is that I have a room filled with quite a few cans of food, a room with allot of water. So when I think of all that has been said, all of the saturation on the net and all what the old prophets say, I just really feel comfortable now. 
SpiritVoices- Member
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AngelTony wrote:What is interesting is that I have a room filled with quite a few cans of food, a room with allot of water. So when I think of all that has been said, all of the saturation on the net and all what the old prophets say, I just really feel comfortable now.
You have the right idea there,Tony.
mac- Member
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Myopia is a situation evident in recent generations...
Doom-mongers convinced that Armageddon is round the corner, others planning their escape from whatever man-made catastrophe they fear
Do they think that the turmoil facing the world presently is worse than other turmoil faced in decades and centuries past? How do they work that out? How do they assess the risks? Is it balanced analysis or pessimistic emotion?
Doom-mongers convinced that Armageddon is round the corner, others planning their escape from whatever man-made catastrophe they fear
Do they think that the turmoil facing the world presently is worse than other turmoil faced in decades and centuries past? How do they work that out? How do they assess the risks? Is it balanced analysis or pessimistic emotion?
SpiritVoices- Member
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mac wrote:Myopia is a situation evident in recent generations...
Doom-mongers convinced that Armageddon is round the corner, others planning their escape from whatever man-made catastrophe they fear
Do they think that the turmoil facing the world presently is worse than other turmoil faced in decades and centuries past? How do they work that out? How do they assess the risks? Is it balanced analysis or pessimistic emotion?
I would say 'pessimistic emotion'.
Let's all run for the exits.
Blame everyone else for our own mistakes.
sparkly- Member
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hi viking.the message is that if you live for personal gain, if you feel you have a free pass, because you have not yet reeped what you have sown, because you get what you want, because you denigrate the earth and respect none of the species that live within or on it, that you see as serving no purpose except in relation to yourself;
that these things are not unnoticed, rather that they are a case of give you enough rope....
conversely, the flipside of that message is, just because you don't write grown up letters to santa, behave like a sycophant, your value, your beauty, your endeavours, to the absolute, has not gone unnoticed either.
not everyone is going to understand these things, because they will have to repeat them in another place, at another time.
hey joanie, its good to have some supplies for comfort, but i will go out on a limb and say survival is not dependant on material resources. rather on an open heart.
Viking- Member
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And why is this message not for everyone? Who is it for? Who is it not for? Why?
SpiritVoices- Member
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sparkly wrote:
the message is that if you live for personal gain, if you feel you have a free pass, because you have not yet reeped what you have sown, because you get what you want, because you denigrate the earth and respect none of the species that live within or on it, that you see as serving no purpose except in relation to yourself;
that these things are not unnoticed, rather that they are a case of give you enough rope....
Personally my own opinion,Sparkly would be to to go with the flow.
At my tender age,it wouldn't worry me.
I will either go up there or remain down here!
Joanie x
conversely, the flipside of that message is, just because you don't write grown up letters to santa, behave like a sycophant, your value, your beauty, your endeavours, to the absolute, has not gone unnoticed either.
not everyone is going to understand these things, because they will have to repeat them in another place, at another time.
sparkly- Member
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i agree with your sentiment joanie. no need to concern oneself with whether we are to stay or go. it's only a matter of stage door entries/ exits. 
viking, as i said some are to learn it in another place and time, the reason is they aren't ready for the incredible openness required to really take in the whole "we are not alone thing", i mean this in more ways than one. ie that this is not the centre of the universe, nor is it iconic for development or anything earth people fancy themselves as. some people that are passing away at this time will go some place better/ worse and some will come back for the show.
viking, as i said some are to learn it in another place and time, the reason is they aren't ready for the incredible openness required to really take in the whole "we are not alone thing", i mean this in more ways than one. ie that this is not the centre of the universe, nor is it iconic for development or anything earth people fancy themselves as. some people that are passing away at this time will go some place better/ worse and some will come back for the show.
Viking- Member
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That is merely a belief, Sparkly. How do you know it as a fact?
AngelTony- Member
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This one makes me laugh!
This one as well
This one as well
SpiritVoices- Member
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Funny
Panda- Member
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You know, I see where you are coming from. I didn't know most of the things you have told me. It just doesn't seem right for some reason. To be honest with you, I never actually worried about the end of the world until a few years ago. No one really spoke of it or anything. THEN BOOOM! Movies, books, new reports. It was a bit overwhealming. Thanks for not bringing the Bible into this conversation... I really respect you for that.AngelTony wrote:Panda wrote:Hiya everyone!
2012... Two years ago, this topic was a hot spot in my generation. Everyone was talking about how the world was going to end and what not. I was extremely convinced that we all were going to die. Then, I realized that the world was supposed to end in 1997, 2000, 2001, and 2004. I believe the end of the world is just a scam for people who are a lot wiser to make money. Like, people are writing books on how to survive the apocalypse, to teach you about it, ECT. Don't people see scam in bold print? Eh, I’m getting worked up. Soon it will be December 22, 2012 and everyone is going to be so happy the world didn't end. Then, the next apocalypse year will come and the same thing will happen again. It would be a shame for the world to end though. I've spent all my life in school -___-" There are my views on the day the world isn't going to end.
What is very strange is that its not just the Mayans that for see this, it is the Hopi Indians, Nostradamis, I-Ching, The "current" web bot project, some even with ancient Egyptian writings and the Free Masons!!! WOW!!! It all seems to land around the same time. What is real funny about the web project is that 5 months towards the end of summer of 2012 the data is BLANK, and the programmers do not know why? Even science is seeing that there will be a massive solar storm that will be much bigger than the one that hit us in 2001. This happens every 11 years, OK you do the math!!!
Now also keep in mind additionally to this is that our entire Galaxy, (not our solar system, I am talking our milky-way) yanoo our 125 million light year wide Galaxy is going to be in perfect alignment with guess what? Our planet!! Do ya think something’s happening now? I am not going to sell my home, but I am going to put quite allot of canned foods and water in my house within this next year!! (of course I already have been) So sorry Panda, I don’t think its just a money issue or that "extreme" over the board movie, this is in fact quite immense and I think will happen fairly soon but slow. I do not think it will happen over night, I think we still can get prepared (Out of respect, of my beliefs and yours, I did not even bring the Bible into this.) It’s already saturated!!
Here have a few cupcakes,
YAY for cupcakes too! I might need them XD I think we all need to get together and prevent this from potentially happening!
AngelTony- Member
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[quote="Panda"]
How... I have no Idea!! I have a few personal beleifs but in all we all need to do this.
Yanoo, it never really hit me until just a few years ago as well (even with my NDE experience) but wow panda, that is the best answer I have heard yet. ---- in red above.....AngelTony wrote:You know, I see where you are coming from. I didn't know most of the things you have told me. It just doesn't seem right for some reason. To be honest with you, I never actually worried about the end of the world until a few years ago. No one really spoke of it or anything. THEN BOOOM! Movies, books, new reports. It was a bit overwhealming. Thanks for not bringing the Bible into this conversation... I really respect you for that.Panda wrote:Hiya everyone!
2012... Two years ago, this topic .................. (Out of respect, of my beliefs and yours, I did not even bring the Bible into this.) It’s already saturated!!
Here have a few cupcakes,
YAY for cupcakes too! I might need them XD I think we all need to get together and prevent this from potentially happening!
How... I have no Idea!! I have a few personal beleifs but in all we all need to do this.
Kaere- Member
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Do you think that's why God decided that the world should end - so humankind could find a way to stop it? Or do you think he might have another reason for bringing the world to an end?
Just so I'm clear, I don't believe the world's going to end at all.
Just so I'm clear, I don't believe the world's going to end at all.
Violet- Admin
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I don't either
Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.
sparkly- Member
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viking, i was born with this stuff within me, the knowledge of a new age...in recent times i have had dreams, visions etc of some events and then they have happened, like the earthquakes in new zealand and the floods in australia.....
some other information i have come by and you wouldn't believe that. so i'll not bother explaining here.
anyway, if you are what i sense, you've no need to worry.
some other information i have come by and you wouldn't believe that. so i'll not bother explaining here.
anyway, if you are what i sense, you've no need to worry.
Panda- Member
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[quote="AngelTony"]
Indeed we do :D That's why we're all here together!Panda wrote:Yanoo, it never really hit me until just a few years ago as well (even with my NDE experience) but wow panda, that is the best answer I have heard yet. ---- in red above.....AngelTony wrote:You know, I see where you are coming from. I didn't know most of the things you have told me. It just doesn't seem right for some reason. To be honest with you, I never actually worried about the end of the world until a few years ago. No one really spoke of it or anything. THEN BOOOM! Movies, books, new reports. It was a bit overwhealming. Thanks for not bringing the Bible into this conversation... I really respect you for that.Panda wrote:Hiya everyone!
2012... Two years ago, this topic .................. (Out of respect, of my beliefs and yours, I did not even bring the Bible into this.) It’s already saturated!!
Here have a few cupcakes,
YAY for cupcakes too! I might need them XD I think we all need to get together and prevent this from potentially happening!
How... I have no Idea!! I have a few personal beleifs but in all we all need to do this.
AngelTony- Member
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Yes, I think so too.. 
Thank you Panda
Thank you Panda
Panda- Member
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No, thank you for your imput! It was very much appriciated! 
SeaCharms- Member
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I say the beginning of awareness and enlightenment, which in my opinion has already started. People are not as willing to be believe everything they hear and they no longer want to be door mats.
Violet- Admin
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I think something is going to happen in the not so distant future, as you say people are getting disheartened, i'm not sure what or when but there are a lot of unhappy people right now.
Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.