Criminals

The only way to end criminal behaviour is to end the fight of good vs evil, and the fight within a person.

Violet wrote:Serious criminals i'm talking about here do you think it does any good locking them up, can they turn their lives around, or should we throw away the key and even kill them (death penalty.)
Isn't someone who kills people with the death penalty just as much a murderer as the murderers he is killing?

For some reason a book I read sometime ago has come to mind tonight it was about one of the british hangmen that's what's prompted the thread.

But think about this..many people commit suicide,
now, often they do it because of other people that others see as good.
And they will never be punished.
So many people are tormented for decades by humans that will never be punished as others do not see the behaviour as evil or it
simply isnt under law.

Violet wrote:
Hmm.......... I think differently, if proper discipline was re introduced that would sort it out sharpish or at least a good portion of it but i'm going off at a tangent...again

Violet wrote:Hi Innerlight I don't mean discipline after the event, I mean the discipline that begins in the home at a very young age such as telling a child no and meaning it instead of caving in and giving them everything they want, giving them routine instead of (as in some cases) dunmping them in front of a tv or computer all day every day, or worse letting them roam the streets at all hours. Parents are afraid of their own children these days, scared to say no etc in case they kick off.

Discipline begins at home with parents who mean what they say and give love, encouragement routine, guidance and consistency, if this was done we would have very few brats in the world which then grow to be adult brats.

Akyana wrote:

Violet wrote:Serious criminals i'm talking about here do you think it does any good locking them up, can they turn their lives around, or should we throw away the key and even kill them (death penalty.)
Isn't someone who kills people with the death penalty just as much a murderer as the murderers he is killing?

For some reason a book I read sometime ago has come to mind tonight it was about one of the british hangmen that's what's prompted the thread.

All evil people suck.
But think about this..many people commit suicide,
now, often they do it because of other people that others see as good.
And they will never be punished.
So many people are tormented for decades by humans that will never be punished as others do not see the behaviour as evil or it
simply isnt under law.

Whether we class people as being evil or not we are each a part of and connected with the same divine source. This source loves all unconditionally, but this doesn't mean we are free from responsibility of our own actions.
The things we say and do in our lives today helps prepare us for our eventual place in the spirit world, where we will condemn ourselves. No one person gets away with any wrongs they have done.

We are blind and as such we cant see properly whats happening ,
and so we are not spiritually mature to judge who is who
though if someone would hurt someone I love,
I would be very angry.

mia wrote:In my ideal world, criminals would be locked up, but whilst 'inside' would be given healing, shown love and gently taught to love others.
When they have completed their 'healing' they would be freed and become useful members of the human race.

skye wrote:
This reminds me of Jesus saying " Father, forgive them for they know not what they do."

Violet wrote:

I wonder if people were to learn or at most come to some understanding that their actions not only hurt their victims but also themselves then perhaps we would see significant changes in our world.

Far too often the criminal is treated as the victim, 'oh he's had a rough childhood...'etc etc

Hi Violet ,

Mal

Violet wrote:

I wonder if people were to learn or at most come to some understanding that their actions not only hurt their victims but also themselves then perhaps we would see significant changes in our world.

Far too often the criminal is treated as the victim, 'oh he's had a rough childhood...'etc etc

Violet wrote:

I wonder if people were to learn or at most come to some understanding that their actions not only hurt their victims but also themselves then perhaps we would see significant changes in our world.

Far too often the criminal is treated as the victim, 'oh he's had a rough childhood...'etc etc

Violet wrote:Discipline begins at home with parents who mean what they say and give love, encouragement routine, guidance and consistency, if this was done we would have very few brats in the world which then grow to be adult brats.

Mal5252 wrote:Hello Skye and all ,
I know that the 'blame game' is a delicate issue. In many cases it's the Karma principle of 'what goes around comes around', that when people do wrong it will always come back to haunt them in one way or another. However, there are extreme cases like one I remember years ago where a woman, who had been repeatedly raped by her father since she was little, murdered her father and a few other men. She had developed a serious hatred for men. And could anybody blame her? Eventually she was arrested and found guilty of serial murders and sentenced to life in prison. Where does the justice system draw the line? Or is there no line?

Mal