Selket Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:49 am
Sacred-Star wrote: And the only way to prevent bad people doing bad things on a large
scale is through Fear. Having the Parents behave better, the schools and
teachers to be better and the media to be better is impossible. This
people cannot change. There will always be Bad Apples. So we got to
pursuade those to behave, and unfortunatly they donot speak the language
of reason and love. the only thing they understand is Cruelty and Fear.
First of all you cannot generalise about all bad people-everyone is different and you never know some bad people can turn their lives around.
I went to a spiritual course last year and there was this woman there who was full of love and compassion and understanding, she wanted to heal people and really help them. She wanted to go out and show love to those involved in crimes and show them another path.
She used to be involved in a life where she abused drugs big time and stole from people, got into fights and hung out with really bad people and encouraged bad behaviour-but she managed to turn her life around and if you would have seen her you would never have thought that she had a bad childhood, teenage and early adult life.
I've come across other people who used to be involved in a life of drugs, theft. physical abuse alcohol abuse, self-harm and harming others but they managed to turn their life around completely.
Now where will fear and cruelty come into this?
Fear is what turns numerous people to crime in the first place. You can't just simply think that there is no hope for all bad people-these people have had to endure terrible childhoods where they lived in fear and under cruelty-so what do we treat fire with fire?
As for the law has to treat the woman who was raped in a cold and calculating manner-how is this the right thing to do? Have any of us been in her situation? Do any of us know what she went through or felt whilst she was being raped by her father? Perhaps she needed to be understood or helped to vent out her feelings of frustration? Perhaps her neighbours or someone else knew but did nothing about it/ Perhaps social services didn't pay much attention to her if they knew. Perhaps there was no way out for her.
Would we find it alright to be locked-up for many years because we did bad without anybody trying to talk to us to see the underlying cause of why we did what we did?
So what shall we all just punish those that do badly as severely as possible without trying to understand why they did what they did in order to
maybe prevent further incidents?
That are nice and heartwarming stories, but unfortunatly they are meaningless. Thoose people who turned they life around as you say did some pretty nasty things. The only thing that happend is that they woke up. They realized the bad they have done caused them and others alot of pain.
But still this doesnt negate the fact that they did bad things, we all make mistakes and we are not perfect. But criminals make a choice again and again day after day that leads to more suffering. I can and did make some mistakes in my life yes but i didnt do the same kind of mistake day after day. And please dont start with group pressure or anything thats BS Grouppressure can only work if the person in the group things the group is worthy and good for him to stay. A person who doesnt like what happens in a group they would not join.
People who did bad things did bad things thats a fact, a drugdealer has the ability to destroy the life of many many people and make many familys sad. Those people who turned they life around are sorry for what they done yes. But they still dont think its wrong and most of them think they are the victims.
People that do crimes on a daily basis are different. And its sad but true that they just understand when they are faced with consequences that hurt.
Many people who sell drugs think its not their problem what people want, they are just suppliers. And the junkies would get their fix somewhere else anyway. So they go on selling drugs for years go on destroy and exploit people until one day he stops, and they mostly stop because a negative experience. Mostly from Police or prison. Or they self got addicted. Or or or
In a nutshell criminals never change their behavior if people give them understanding love or anything else. why would they stop?
The only thing that stops a criminal are negative experiences. And often very harsh treats of those will prevent people with this mindset become one. (drugdealer is just a example^^)
Criminals justify they own actions. and go on. Then they fall and try to change because the old way doesnt lead to success.
I cannot admire anyone who changed their life from a criminal to a good person. But i do admire people who didnt became criminals in the first place.
PS as u already noticed i dont really believe in forgiveness. Things that are done, are done.
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. Australia is a beautiful but very dry country, that's why most of the population lives on the mid to south east coastal areas. There's very little out in the centre of Oz, what they call the 'Never Never', been there.
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