Levels of Consciousness

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In your opinion how many levels of consciousness are there?
Depending on who you are talking to this number can vary tremendously. I've heard everything from 3 to infinity.
Do you believe these levels of consciousness are proportional to our ability to exist in other dimensions?
Do you believe in other dimensions?

Love to all...

Hello Joanie and Tony
Do not get carried away by science alone--the mathematics has to be there to back it up!!!
String theory--please not theory NOT fact--says our existence is multi-dimensional!
Tony -sorry but your fixation with non scientific and non mathematical beliefs makes me wonder!!!
Joanie -keep wondering dear lady--the truth is out there!! But I fear NOT in here!!
Peter

AngelTony wrote:

Joanie wrote:Aha! You reading my mind again!
There has to be to deal with the subject of dimensions.
You know what first took my interest in Physics?
When the teacher showed a prism to the class.
I was fascinated by it,all those pretty colours.

I loved that as well!! Prisms are so very cool. Also here is another cool physics object that I even wrote about on this website last year.

It is called a radiomter and detects the presance of sun light and spins by itself!!

I read the link you put on here,so interesting.
Why have I not heard about these before?

Joanie

PPrncpl7 wrote:Hello Joanie and Tony
Do not get carried away by science alone--the mathematics has to be there to back it up!!!
String theory--please not theory NOT fact--says our existence is multi-dimensional!
Tony -sorry but your fixation with non scientific and non mathematical beliefs makes me wonder!!!
Joanie -keep wondering dear lady--the truth is out there!! But I fear NOT in here!!
Peter

Ah,but it is tools that count as well,Peter.
But the theory is very important.
Mathematics are most important.
Plus the scientists that work these theories out.
Am I correct?

I read the link you put on here,so interesting.
Why have I not heard about these before?

Joanie[/quote]
Maybe because IT IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE!
Peter

PPrncpl7 wrote:I read the link you put on here,so interesting.
Why have I not heard about these before?

Joanie

Maybe because IT IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE!
Peter[/quote]
Think of it this way,Peter.
The tools need the mind and the mind needs the tools.
We cannot work alone.
When you want to write thoughts down on paper,what do you need?
A pen or pencil.

Hello Joanie
AND A LOGICAL MIND THAT WILL CONTROL THE PEN/PENCIL
Peter

PPrncpl7 wrote:Hello Joanie and Tony
Do not get carried away by science alone--the mathematics has to be there to back it up!!!
String theory--please not theory NOT fact--says our existence is multi-dimensional!
Tony -sorry but your fixation with non scientific and non mathematical beliefs makes me wonder!!!
Joanie -keep wondering dear lady--the truth is out there!! But I fear NOT in here!!
Peter

What are you talking about Peter? Maybe re-read my previous entry Re: Levels of Consciousness <--click here
I think you only read the top few posts here or just on page 2 or so?

Hello Tony
I speak about that which I have properly researched--YOU????
I stand by what I have posted, if you do not comprehend then do some reading/research into what I have posted.
PPLL n L
Peter

PPrncpl7 wrote:Hello Joanie
AND A LOGICAL MIND THAT WILL CONTROL THE PEN/PENCIL
Peter

The most important thing,I think.

Levels of Consciousness are like levels of the ocean, but in all truth there is only ONE level, the other so called levels only exists in the mind, no mind no levels.

PPrncpl7 wrote:Hello Tony
I speak about that which I have properly researched--YOU????
I stand by what I have posted, if you do not comprehend then do some reading/research into what I have posted.
PPLL n L
Peter

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Amazing how we have the power to choose our level of consciousness.
Our conscious level determines exacting who we are being NOW.
Which can be altered, I can make myself anew at any given time in life. I
don't have to wait until I die. I am a human being renewed constantly depending on my
level of consciousness. As we already know we are constantly evolving according to evolution. But the question is what are we evolving into?

I love to see how Peter add up the numbers, and AngelTony present examples of
quantum physics, yes most of it fly above my head too. Therefore I just grab a hold to what I can understand and appreciate as I do for all.



On the contrary sparkly, I believe my soul has direct bearing on my level of consciousness. Moreover I believe my soul produces / generates the purest and highest
level of conscious being. Connections; all is connected by number, location, size, mass, energy, etc....I am extremely hesitant to discard anything as being pointless or meaningless. Spirituality has no value (imho).

Love to all..

sparkly wrote:
what really matters is what is in our hearts, how we live- this is the true meaning of believe- how you be living.

hi CW, what did i say which makes you think i believe the soul has no bearing? i didn't say there is no mathematics involved, as i stated in my 1st or second post, there is a connection in sacred geometry and metatron (i myself was introduced to oompatha of the sacred number chart one night).
when you say spirituality has no value, do you mean the espoused adherence to this or that belief? i'd go along with that.

My interest now is in the planets which surround us at different dimensions,those with more spiritual experience and the one below us with less.

Joanie

yeah i'm fascinated with "aliens" too joanie, and i wonder about the planets and planes.
after reading isaac asimov, and considering what will be involved in travel to these distant places, when i mentally go there, i start to think on the different planets perhaps being on different planes..i mean when you get to thinking about the vast distances, and the "jump" necessary....
i'm interested in more advanced peoples...not too keen on those lower, i mean here is bad enough if you ask me! do you actually have any interactions with peoples from higher or lower civilisations, joanie?

sparkly wrote:yeah i'm fascinated with "aliens" too joanie, and i wonder about the planets and planes.
after reading isaac asimov, and considering what will be involved in travel to these distant places, when i mentally go there, i start to think on the different planets perhaps being on different planes..i mean when you get to thinking about the vast distances, and the "jump" necessary....
i'm interested in more advanced peoples...not too keen on those lower, i mean here is bad enough if you ask me! do you actually have any interactions with peoples from higher or lower civilisations, joanie?

No I haven't,Sparkly.
I am just interested in other kinds of lives on other planets.
There has to be more than just 'us' alive in this great universe.
Talking about time differences,if it 10 hours difference between UK and Oz,omagine the time differences between other planets.

yes i'm very interested in other planets too. have you ever read asimov?
the first book i read of his was "the naked sun" in which elijah bailey visits some interesting places, one of which is solaris.
only an egotist can think we are alone. if it wasn't so tragic, it'd be funny!
as stephen hawking said;

"To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like."

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291159#ixzz1HJxGTyLy

[quote="sparkly"]yes i'm very interested in other planets too. have you ever read asimov?
the first book i read of his was "the naked sun" in which elijah bailey visits some interesting places, one of which is solaris.
only an egotist can think we are alone. if it wasn't so tragic, it'd be funny!
as stephen hawking said;

"To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like."

[/quote]

Isaac Asimov was a brilliant author and scientist. I have read many of his works. Many scientists today use his examples towards thier own discoveries. Robotics in particular for one.

hi tony,
yes i agree a wonderful mind he had, as evidenced from his books. he really calls us to question what it means to be human.
and a wonderful blend of sci/ fi technical knowledge/ questions with true warmth....
so does this mean you too are open to life out there, tony?

Sparkly please forgive if I misinterpreted your post here

people please don't be offended, but this about where other diimensions
may or may not be...is like how many angels can dance on the top of a pin? there
is so much more to focus on.
what really matters is what is in our hearts, how we live- this is the true
meaning of believe- how you be living. This is my
point exactly, how we live is determined by our level of spiritual consciousness. I'm not saying don't try to uncover the universe's mystery, but while
how to live, why we are here seem to be mysteries we need to discover...i just
don't feel beyond discovering the levels of consciousness accessible to us,
that we can really afford to spend time on stuff that ultimately has no bearing
on our soul.

This is the post I was referring to when I said:

On the contrary sparkly, I believe my soul has direct
bearing on my level of consciousness. Moreover I believe my soul produces /
generates the purest and highest levels of conscious being. Speaking of connections; all….
is connected by number, location, size, mass, energy, etc....I am extremely
hesitant to discard anything as being pointless or meaningless.Spirituality has no value (imho). (Meaning:
immeasurable, I can only measure our personal concepts and experiences). Spirituality can not be measured with time, or
any visible, tangible thing we know of, imho.

I am curious about this
question: does our spiritual consciousness helps us to be more receptive to
other dimensions, in your own opinion? Could this be one of the magnet that pulls and expose us to their existence?

Love to all...

sparkly wrote:hi tony,
yes i agree a wonderful mind he had, as evidenced from his books. he really calls us to question what it means to be human.
and a wonderful blend of sci/ fi technical knowledge/ questions with true warmth....
so does this mean you too are open to life out there, tony?

Hi sparkly, yes I am very open to life elsewhere. Asimov and Carl Sagan was quite correct with our universe. Our Galaxy has 100 billion solar systems with 100,000 earth like planets out there and in our universe we have 100 billion galaxies that support those planets....wow!! this is too imense to be just us.

CW, I had a NDE when I was 15 and I truly believe I passed into another dimension for 3 days. This was a spiritual phenomenon that has followed me for the rest of my life. If that was one dimension, what is in the other 10??

hi cw , now i see where you got that idea, you have read a post that i made as to the "arguing" over .5 mm and dimensional positions- i'm not saying that is or isn't the case- i just don't think it matters where they are! you probably want to read my first post in this thread.
in answer to your question; no. i don't think spiritual or rather mental concepts make you more receptive. it is my belief that you could be a highly receptive soul working in a pie shop or street sweeping. it is my belief that it is your heart and not your mind which is (at stake here) what informs your level of attainment. knowledge we hav in our minds is just the salt to the pie. nice to have, but not essential.
hi tony, i think it is great that somehow in your religious framework you have left space for life beyond here. that could sound patronising but it isn't.
i know the pope said finding alien life would not change things and i agree, to an extent. it shouldn't have to change the idea of a creative universe- "god". however i think for most people it would change a lot!
this nde you had, perhaps it was something akin to jodie foster's "contact". check it out!

CW, I had a NDE when I was 15 and I truly believe I passed into another
dimension for 3 days. This was a spiritual phenomenon that has followed
me for the rest of my life. If that was one dimension, what is in the
other 10??

This is exactly what I'm talking about AngelTony.

it is my belief that it is your heart and not your mind which is (at stake here) what informs your level of attainment

Sparkly, the mind and heart are organs contained within the body and can not be separate from the body without some kind of life support. Unlike our (conscious, soul, spiritual or energy force field) these parts of self extend beyond our physical self. I too have also experienced OBEs, under many quite different circumstances. This is why I put this thread under the topic Chakras because I believe when all 7 chakras are open we are extremely receptive to other dimensions. Yes, I agree with you sparkly, your functions or status in life has nothing to do with it. Please allow me to share a little something about the solar plexus chakra located in the center of our bodies. As in ancient days it was believed that Earth is the center of the universe.

The Solar Plexus Chakra often deals with raw emotions, like anger,
frustration, and intuition or gut feelings. Being extremely sensitive,
particularly to the emotions of others any blockages here can easily create
uncontrolled emotions, tenseness, hostility, rage and severe stomach problems.
Located between the sternum bone and the belly, it governs the will, the mind,
emotions, stomach, and upper digestive tract, assimilation of nutrients,
psychic experiences, rational left brain) thoughts, ego, vital energies,
control, accomplishments, and the freedom to be yourself.


To aid this center, you must relax your emotions. This centre must be
made more available. You must be more sensitive, laugh more, cry more, touch
and feel more.



Love to all

These 7 levels of consciousness resonate with me....level 4 - transcendental consciousness being one many of us are familiar with e.g. as in meditation and mindfulness.  I get into this bliss state just by sitting in my peaceful garden (i.e. when there's no other nearby sounds!)


https://tmhome.com/books-videos/7-states-of-consciousness-video-interview/

and here's more about Jerry Freeman, who made that website
https://batgap.com/jerry-freeman/

Hmmm, a lot of interesting ideas.

I understand there are 12 levels of consciousness or densities and as you know that these levels are based on frequency and vibration created by it. Each with their own sub levels.

1st, is like mineral, rock, gem/crystal etc. Each giving off their own frequency and vibration and just being with very limited awareness.
2nd, is the begining of biological cellular leveled organisms, from bacterium, insects, mould, plants right through to animals less humans. These work off from preprogramed instincts right through to awareness and reactive instincts.
3rd, is where human life begins our awarness and full consciousness. Experiencing the rollercoaster of the human condition of the full spectrum of emotions, creativity, intellect an free will is exercised. Some knowing of a connectedness, but just not quite being able to put a finger on it.
4th, is similar to 3rd, but is gaining traction towards 5th density. As 4th density is more a transition phase. The link between 3rd and 5th because of the complexity and differences between the two. As one moves in and out of 3rd and 4th densities until a solid anchorage is maintained. Then the same from 4th to 5th density occurs. What is stated in 3rd, 4th & 5th densites is occuring now in this lifetime with many people. As more people experience their own awakenings. Gifts or abilities begin to surface for some.
5th, is the begining of 'way cool' densities. It is where psychic abilities are almost second nature. It is all about love, intellect, empathy, compassion, manifestaion. This is the final density we can maintain a physical form.
6th, love and the begining of light, higher intellect than 5th. No longer have the need to maintain a physical body.
6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th are similar but with higher levels of graduating aspects of 6th density.
12th, is where we merge back with the collective consciousness, we merge back with Source. We have come full circle. Time for a well deserved break.