Mindblowing

It's probably a good thing that we can't recall past lives (if past lives are a fact) can you imagine passing away a couple of hundred years ago and being born again now if you had any memory at all, it would blow your brains.



Could this be why some people never feel they 'fit in' or feel really out of place, or why some people prefer to live their lives in what some would see in an eccentric kind of way, surrounding themselves with olde worlde type things and dressing in certain fashions? Because there are vague memories present?

Strange you should mention this,Violet because something jogged my memory.
I remember shopping in Bedford once,many months ago and was astounded to see a lady dressed in Victorian clothes. I was fascinated as were other people who stopped to look at her.
She wore the most gorgeous wide brimmed hat with flower set in it and a veil draped over the hat and tied under her chin.

I told my daughter about her and she wasn't surprised!
'Oh' she said 'That's Victoria Lil,she always dresses like that,we're used to seeing her about.'

I haven't seen her ages but just remembered her now.
I wonder if she remembered a past life or had the inclination to dress for some reason,in Victorian clothes.
Must ask daughter if this lady is still around.

You could be right there Violet. This is where de ja vu comes in. I think in many ways past lives do effect us in our present one I love to meet people and this could be due to the fact that in a past life I could have lived alone or isolated, one never knows. Would love to be regressed just to find out

Violet wrote:Could this be why some people never feel they 'fit in' or feel really out of place, or why some people prefer to live their lives in what some would see in an eccentric kind of way, surrounding themselves with olde worlde type things and dressing in certain fashions? Because there are vague memories present?

Like the children's author/illustrator Tasha Tudor lived her "1800's" life.

I wonder if she remembered a past life or had the inclination to dress for some reason,in Victorian clothes.

That's what makes it difficult it could just be a passion for clothes of that era, I love seventies stuff but I couldn't have had a past life then as i'm not young enough it does make you wonder if it could be more than a passion though, in some cases at least.

I wish i'd had a regression when I was offered one Assumpta, i'm not totally convinced about past lives perhaps that would have convinced me.

Beware_of_Italics wrote:

Violet wrote:Could this be why some people never feel they 'fit in' or feel really out of place, or why some people prefer to live their lives in what some would see in an eccentric kind of way, surrounding themselves with olde worlde type things and dressing in certain fashions? Because there are vague memories present?

Like the children's author/illustrator Tasha Tudor lived her "1800's" life.

A lot of arty types are just considered 'eccentric' when they do such things but again it makes you wonder...

Likewhen I was a child,I could not draw myself away from any Victorian pictures of clothes,houses and Xmas in particular.

It was like a craving. Whatever drew me to that period of time in life,I feel I was very happy then.

I also felt I came from a privleged family then,big house and no shortage of money. Also I had very loving parents.

Wonder what made me feel that?

Yes, strange isn't it Joan. Now I've always have a thing about Greece. In face we did consider going to live there before we moved here to Spain. This thing about Greece was with me as a young child, I just loved and still do anything to do with ancient Greece. Perhaps I lived during this time and have found memories somewhere in my subconcious of it.

Have you ever been to Greece on holiday,Assumpta?

Joanie wrote:Likewhen I was a child,I could not draw myself away from any Victorian pictures of clothes,houses and Xmas in particular.

It was like a craving. Whatever drew me to that period of time in life,I feel I was very happy then.

I also felt I came from a privleged family then,big house and no shortage of money. Also I had very loving parents.

Wonder what made me feel that?

Victorian Christmas. I had a dream about that once. It was the HAPPIEST dream, too. I think I lived with an uncle though. I was at his house, expecting guests to arrive at any minute, but my cousins (a lot of boys) were misbehaving. I kept threatening to lock them outside if they misbehaved in front of our guests. They were sliding down the banister and everything. One of them had very curly brown hair and he had me chasing him outside. (It was nighttime). He crawled up on this rock wall and was just swinging his legs and laughing at me.

But I was having quite the grand time with the thought of playing hostess for a Christmas gathering. There was this huge wreath by the stairs, and a maid up there was dusting. She had blonde hair and I remember thinking that she was so nice and pretty. I even remember there being a small Christmas tree by the front door.

Now that is so interesting,Beware of Italics.

I have never dreamed of anything Victorian but the pull towards Victorian times is very strong.

Even watching a movie about those times,makes me feel very much at home. I feel as if I want to step into the movie.

Joanie

Reincarnation is SO misunderstood that I have always - - (in this lifetime) - - accepted the discussions about it as great lessons in what mind can make out of it.

Before I get into this a bit more - - I have to say - - Violet - - you ask wonderful questions - - and I will tell you this - - as you personally ponder your own question in your entries, you often come up with a very working answer - - except that you don’t accept it as such - - and so you go on with pondering. This - - is the way of mind.

I may step on some people’s toes here - - so I am going to just lay out the basics and leave it at that.

The absolute very first time any individual Soul incarnates into the physical plane and perhaps onto Earth - - It (Soul) knows nothing about nothing about nothing. A basic prerequisite is - - Soul is not mind - - and mind is not Soul. That principle too - - I will just leave as is.

That being the case - - Soul does not have “memory” as we know it here. That - - is a mental attribute and is something that Soul takes on for various reasons. Those are other issues altogether.

To say that Soul already knows everything but just forgets - - and has to come down here and go through “all of this? - - is like saying - - we are each born with a high school education - - but we still have to start at pre-school or Grade 1 - - because we just “lost it” along the way. Things would come back a lot more quickly if that were the case. Few people would struggle with what they already know.

So - - at the beginning - - each Soul is totally ignorant of everything you can think of. No morals - - no values - - no ethics - - no concepts - - no principles - - no beliefs - - etc. You can imagine what those first incarnations would be like. Born to someone in the back alleys or India or the jungles of Africa or South America - - or other bleak places - - where the name of the game is survival and that’s it. You want food and shelter because your newly acquired physical body demands it - - and if you live long enough - - you learn how to get it - - ANY way you can.

So - - you tell me - - knowing how long it takes for the average person to give up or take on very simple behavior changes and habits and perceptions - - you tell me - - how long would it take to go from knowing nothing about nothing about nothing - - to a Mother Teresa or a Buddha or a Jesus or a Ghandi or a - - ?

How long?

Looking through the entries in just this topic - - you could give the genetics boys and girls for-EV-er - - to come up with the gene that makes a person have an affinity for Greece. You could wait centuries for the science people to define the gene that would nudge a person to like the Victorian period.

It won’t happen - - and - - those memories had to come from somewhere.

Accept it. Let it all work for you. When I have said elsewhere that we tend to get in our own way - - our continued doubt just makes the Path more difficult - - although I have also said - - a healthy skepticism is wise to uphold because it keeps us from being too acceptant.

Yes Violet - - people who feel like they don’t fit in came from previous conditions and situations that are just *that* different than the period they are living within now. There is nothing to hold on to - - nothing familiar - - so they set out to draw to themselves that which is - - familiar. And - - there’s nothing wrong with that. People - - for the most part - - survive any way they can.

So the mind has taken this concept - - and it has spun it into countless directions and theories. The mind can make anything out of anything. We take on beliefs that are not our own - - and we use them to understand our own lives. Build upon these for eons - - and you tell me what you are going to come up with.

Reincarnation as a general principle of these worlds is very simple. I will heartily agree that the specifics are not. It is very tough indeed to say that this person lived during this time period as this individual. That’s tough to come up with - - and we are mostly left to accept our preferences and tastes as indications of what and where we were in previous lives.

All in all - - we ARE our past lives. We are born with a rather clean slate but are loaded with generic preferences from previous lives nonetheless - - distinctly ours - - distinctly us. We begin to revise our tendencies and preferences when we become aware enough to begin to make choices during infancy. From that moment on we can meet all kinds of oppositions and variations from what was familiar before. Some bend and contend - - others fight like crazy - - the majority find something in between.

And so - -

On we go.

Glory

One question,Glorymist?

Talking about reincarnation,do you believe that these children who are born with memories supposedly from a past life,are genuine or would it be their imagination?
Joanie

They would most probably be genuine. They will let go of these as they become more trapped / indoctrinated / a part of this lifetime. Some parents will tell their children to dismiss their fanciful stories. Their playmates may do the same. Finally - - most just let go of the past memories and settle into the present lifetime.

Some resist. Some are better at remembering. Most phobias are a glimpse of some very traumatic things that most probably took place in the previous life - - and probably very close to when we "died" or were "killed." Being afraid of heights - - being afraid of closed places - - being afraid of the dark - - etc. All of those - - and many more - - it would not be too difficult to come up with a half dozen or a dozen options as to what kinds of situations might give rise to that fear. If you fell - - or were thrown off a cliff - - you would undoubted be afraid of heights. If they threw you into a dark jail cell or closet or whatever - - darkness would not be your friend. Think of the history of mankind. These things were commonplace - - and many of them were ghastly.

Children today - - many of them will spin stories of what it was like in China - - or some other foreign country. Many can remember castles and caves and alleyways and such. Houses they lived in. Clothes they wore.

If you hear of a child speaking this way - - s/he is giving you a good glimpse of where they have been.

That sounds plausible,indeed.
I have heard that these fears of the unknown do stem or can stem from past lives.
Now what or who carries these memories?
Surely we cannot say the brain because the brain is physical so would it be the soul?

To say that Soul already knows everything but just forgets - - and has to come down here and go through “all of this?

That is one part of reincarnation I find incredibly difficult to swallow, as most know here Glorymist, i'm not 100% convinced about reincarnation, a lot of it makes sense but so much of it doesn't sit well

Yes Violet - - people who feel like they don’t fit in came from previous conditions and situations that are just *that* different than the period they are living within now. There is nothing to hold on to - - nothing familiar - - so they set out to draw to themselves that which is - - familiar. And - - there’s nothing wrong with that. People - - for the most part - - survive any way they can.

And this does make perfect sense.



I'm going to ponder some more and return to this later

Out of intriguing curiosity - - what about reincarnation - - doesn't make sense ?

I will say two things about reincarnation that should always be taken into account.

One - - that reincarnation is quite easy to understand as a general principle - - but the specifics are often tough to determine. I believe I offered this in a PM recently. The *exact* reason why *this* happened to *that* person and why - - is almost impossible to determine. Not until one becomes proficient in becoming lucid in the dream state - - and can work their way up to where they can get an overview of their past lives - - and often that can be misunderstood unless great caution is practiced.

Two - - reincarnation goes hand in hand with karma. I don't think that is any mystery to any of you.

So - - I would be curious. What doesn't make sense to you - - about reincarnation ? As a general principle upon which this entire lower world ( planes and dimensions ) are built upon.

That sounds correct. I read several books on child reincarnation a few years ago and one particularly interested me.
The little boy kept coming out with memories which suggested in a previous life,he had lived as his own grandfather.

I do believe that families reincarnate back into that same family again.
Joanie

Another reason I do agree about reincarnation.
Kharma!
Some of us will not have it that Kharma is involved with reincarnation.
But I think it is an important part of it.
Besides progressing through life after life,Kharma is necessary for correcting all those mistakes we made in previous lives.
Carrying ill will and hurt towards other people.
Crimes we may have committed.
And so on and so on.
We learn to carry love forward and be as pure as we can.
Joanie

The questions you asked sound pretty logical and I'd say yes to them. I wish I could remember my past lives. I definitely didn't live long though... lol

I wish I could remember my past lives. I definitely didn't live long though... lol

That suggests you do have a little memory if you knew you didn't live long.

Joanie I get what you're saying but shouldn't mistakes be (at least tried) to be rectified in the life you're currently in, this is what doesn't makes sense to me Glorymist why punish/address someone's mistakes in another life because of mistakes made in a past one?



As for reincarnation itself, my grandparents frequently come through in readings so how can this be, along with the other millions of communications, if everyone is reincarnated? Some have told me their is a time slot before you come back but I don't know it just doesn't make sense somehow, I'd refuse to come back

Joanie I get what you're saying but shouldn't mistakes be (at least tried) to be rectified in the life you're currently in, this is what doesn't makes sense to me Glorymist why punish/address someone's mistakes in another life because of mistakes made in a past one?



You know I have often wondered the same as you,Violet.

May be we do manage to correct some mistakes in the present life,when we are aware that we have made mistakes. We apoligise to the person we have hurt but then again,sometimes we may not be aware that we have deeply hurt someone so in our next life,we have to make retribution in some way towards that person. But are we aware that the person we have hurt,exists in the same life next time round?

A very deep and confusing subject.

Joanie

I Have always seen Native americans around myself since a child i still connect to them,more so than anyone else, i used to and still do get a pain behind my left ear, i have got three tiny freckles there in a line.it wasnt until i had regression done that i found out in my past life i was Native american i was a chiefs daughter,i was seeing to my horse when i got shot by the so called white man,in the exact place i have got the freckles,

when i was a child my parents bought me a doll with white blonde hair,i took my dads knife and scalped it i took it to my dad, he told my grandmother and she said shes more in tune with the family,than anyone,at the time i didnt realise i had family in the usa,they went to patigonia then into arizona and all over the usa,since 1834 ish.

none of my friends have got blonde hair none of them they are all dark,my parents never made the same mistake again of giving me a doll with blonde hair, when i was in school and as kids do you get into fights, if they were dark haired i would get on with them, if a blonde haired girl or guy started on my i would go for the kill,if i hadnt been pulled of them they would have serious injuries, it all comes from my past life,



Namaste

sometimes we may not be aware that we have deeply hurt someone

That's a very good point Joanie

A very deep and confusing subject.

And thuis is certainly true