shayn wrote:hi Mac
lets start again: suppose i say:" i have an animal guide, it is a big pink elephant, with red tail and white polka dots.."
you ask in your original question: is it actual or is it your subconscious? your original question- what am i suppose to answer? what are you expecting to hear? would you think i would state such a belief if i wouldn't held it to be the truth - actual and real?
as for the other part.. personally i don't know if an animal can be a guide or not.. but i don't see the contradiction that you see.
what do you mean when you say a spirit guide?
Joanie, iv been trying to figure out how to answer your uestion. I believe they must be attached to out persnality, or ourself our past lives. Its hard to say really. You could ask your guide for answers on this. I'll be sure to ask my guide and see what answers I get.shayn wrote:Who said, who has the authority to say only a someone can be a spirit guide? and are animals are not some form of energy? and who said that the one who came the the idea that a guide can be only someone is correct? - good, you believe so, but can you know it for sure? are you on the right here? I DON"T KNOW MAC, i don't come to tell you what is right or wrong, i just say, it is not that simple and not so clear cut and clean as you present it.
according to your theory - what is the reason an animal can't be a guide?
at your post from yesterday at 7:04pm you asked the question : I accept they believe this to be the case but is it actually, or is it just one more unsubstantiated belief?
what do you mean by this then? and is there an other way then academic way to answer that?
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shayn wrote:Who said, who has the authority to say only a someone can be a spirit guide? It certainly wasn't I!
and are animals are not some form of energy? Did someone say they weren't? and who said that the one who came the the idea that a guide can be only someone is correct? - Tell you what - give me some answers to the questions I put and I'll answer some more of yours - this is getting very one-sided. I answer your points and you largely ignore mine.... good, you believe so, but can you know it for sure? are you on the right here? Am I on the right of what...??? I DON"T KNOW MAC, i don't come to tell you what is right or wrong, i just say, it is not that simple and not so clear cut and clean as you present it. OK I totally get that for you it's not as simple and clear cut as I present it but it is for me. I didn't come to tell you what is right or wrong but you appear to be getting wound up because I have a different perspective. I'm not asking you to do anything or say anything you don't want to.
according to your theory - what is the reason an animal can't be a guide? I said it's traditional etc. and that I'm a traditionalist and traditionally spirit guides are not animals. That wasn't my personal theory. And I keep referring to my original point asking whether anyone else thought that 'spirit guides' and 'power animals' made strange bedfellows. Presumably - because you haven't given your opinion - you don't see that they do? Is that the case for you?
at your post from yesterday at 7:04pm you asked the question : I accept they believe this to be the case but is it actually, or is it just one more unsubstantiated belief?
what do you mean by this then? and is there an other way then academic way to answer that? What I mean is: "Is it actually the case or is it an unsubstantiated belief?" Put more simply is it the case that animals have appeared or been heard as spiritual guides, have they given spiritual advice/support/help etc. in some clear fashion or is it a belief that animals may be spiritual guides or give spiritual advice/support/help etc. I don't see that as an academic exercise but simply questions which may be answered by those who claim/feel/believe they are being guided in such ways.
In other words, I'd expect those who say it's the case to be able to explain the reasons they have for saying it. The ones with that experience are surely the ones best able to tell us, wouldn't you agree?
mac wrote:
Traditionally (?) a 'spirit guide' is someone (not something) which provides spiritual support and help. That entity (or those entities) may be seen, unseen, discerned or not. As I'm a traditionalist that's kinda what I feel broadly to be a 'spirit guide' - someone who's kinda like me and not an animal. this is your answer, am i not to understand you mean animals can't be spirits guides?
Using your example above I'd wonder how such a vividly coloured animal was able to provide spiritual support and help. I'd hope you'd be able to explain for me and wouldn't mind doing it.
But being strictly accurate I didn't ask anything of the sort you claimed above, viz ".... is it actual or is it your subconscious?" That's kinda putting (your) words in my mouth, don't you think?
As I wouldn't ask you any such thing, any problem you might imply you'd have in answering me would be academic. It wouldn't apply 'cos it ain't how I write.
what?shayn wrote:mac wrote:
Traditionally (?) a 'spirit guide' is someone (not something) which provides spiritual support and help. That entity (or those entities) may be seen, unseen, discerned or not. As I'm a traditionalist that's kinda what I feel broadly to be a 'spirit guide' - someone who's kinda like me and not an animal. this is your answer, am i not to understand you mean animals can't be spirits guides?
Using your example above I'd wonder how such a vividly coloured animal was able to provide spiritual support and help. I'd hope you'd be able to explain for me and wouldn't mind doing it.
But being strictly accurate I didn't ask anything of the sort you claimed above, viz ".... is it actual or is it your subconscious?" That's kinda putting (your) words in my mouth, don't you think?
As I wouldn't ask you any such thing, any problem you might imply you'd have in answering me would be academic. It wouldn't apply 'cos it ain't how I write.
SpiritVoices wrote:I feel we are slightly off topic here.....
It would have been better to have read my posting #34.... :SH:Auras wrote:SpiritVoices wrote:I feel we are slightly off topic here.....
Mac,shayne, I think you should take your side of the debate to pm.
Auras.
Not being able to bring someone's guide through or get a name etc doesn't mean a medium isn't true, by all means ask a medium but they might not always be able to tell you.Another great way to find out who your spirit guides are is to ask a Medium during a reading. If they are true Mediums they will see them and tell you who they see.
Perhaps we choose our own, or perhaps the guide chooses us just before conception.Who allocates our guides to us?
At best a medium will 'see' only those who draw close enough to be seen. Identifying whether someone is one's guide rather than a helper, or 'guardian angel', may not be straightforward. Exactly what, for example, defines a guide?spiritone* wrote:Another great way to find out who your spirit guides are is to ask a Medium during a reading. If they are true Mediums they will see them and tell you who they see. I have been told I have a male and female indian, a buddha, my grandmother and a humor guide who is a little girl called Lara. I don't think they show themselves all the time so I always ask who they see when I have a reading. I have also asked my grandmother in spirit :hugz: and she told me my Aunt who was like a mother to me, is one of my guides.
