Native American Indians

Violet wrote:Are noted for their spirituality, many people have Native American Indian spirit guides, i'm researching this vast subject at the moment and hope to post some information here for you soon but for starters I was fascinated to read of certain Indians 'turning into arrows' and 'travelling,' sometimes for great distances, naturally I know they didn't literally morph into arrows but is this their way of remote viewing or astral travel, what are your thoughts on this or anything else you may have read or heard about their spiritual beliefs/practices?

Seekerofsolace wrote:I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating to me.  Maybe it is because some of my ancient relatives were Cherokee :D.  A few drops of Native blood is all I can really claim though.  I am just a white guy who's heart would like to be Native :).  Hi Wisa'ka been looking for you, was a fan of your posts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine.

avianscepter wrote:I am part native but I think of them as country folk.  I do not claim it either because I lived in the city all my life and it is a popular city in America.  I think it is a spit in the face to uncle Sam.  I visited the Pueblo grounds in Arizona.  It was an ancient colony.  It looks like a cool pit in the ground with water below.  I also saw a elk or something staring at me and my lover hiding in some shubbery at the end of the small hike.

Wisa'ka wrote:"I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating t.....................osts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine"


Are you certain you want my input?  I don't want to see you at odds with the other members here for conversing with me.

mac wrote:

Wisa'ka wrote:"I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating t.....................osts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine"


Are you certain you want my input?  I don't want to see you at odds with the other members here for conversing with me.

Members shouldn't ever be at odds for speaking with other members so why would conversing with you cause other members a problem?  

Members who've been around here in the longer term, however, may remember your intolerance and anger over certain topics which might again become divisive.

Get bent, mac. My reply wasn't to you, so mind your own business

Wisa'ka wrote:

mac wrote:

Wisa'ka wrote:"I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating t.....................osts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine"


Are you certain you want my input?  I don't want to see you at odds with the other members here for conversing with me.

Members shouldn't ever be at odds for speaking with other members so why would conversing with you cause other members a problem?  

Members who've been around here in the longer term, however, may remember your intolerance and anger over certain topics which might again become divisive.

Get bent, mac. My reply wasn't to you, so mind your own business

avianscepter wrote:Thank you Spiritvoices for telling your story.  It helps me out but I think negative of it.  I am NOT a part of the great nation in Arizona and my father died with papers on hand that proved that my grandmother was full native.  I don't care.  I whisper it because the wind carries many secrets I don't .....care  ... I want a honey scone.. no no .... I don't care..............................shhhhh....... shhhhh...... did you hear it country folk..... shhhhhh........................................the raven................shhh...........................shhhh....................................

Spritvoices, for friend's lover was adopted into the tribe if it was a tribal marriage............. that is probably why no collection may not be possible.................if it was military then it can cross over as a pension would............... shhhhh.....................................shhhh.............................

Wisa'ka wrote:"Ah you made it back eventually and read what I wrote.  

It's not relevant to whom your reply was made and you can not dictate about what subject - and to which member - I may respond.  

Don't agree with the points I made earlier?  Factually incorrect were they?  

I think not....."


To me this is not a competition to best anyone. 


Here at a community where I am not even allowed to post on my own "diary" thread, the sense of disdain is quite evident. It is what it is. Surely upon my arrival here some time ago, if I would of gone along with the new age interpretation of what is called "Native American Spirituality"everything probably would of been just peachy, but that interpretation is not what I or many other indigenous people see as being factual. Being accepted by the people here is not worth playing into falsehoods.


Being punished for being traditional is not new.

avianscepter wrote:Thank you Spiritvoices for telling your story.  It helps me out but I think negative of it.  I am NOT a part of the great nation in Arizona and my father died with papers on hand that proved that my grandmother was full native.  I don't care.  I whisper it because the wind carries many secrets I don't .....care  ... I want a honey scone.. no no .... I don't care..............................shhhhh....... shhhhh...... did you hear it country folk..... shhhhhh........................................the raven................shhh...........................shhhh....................................

Spritvoices, for friend's lover was adopted into the tribe if it was a tribal marriage............. that is probably why no collection may not be possible.................if it was military then it can cross over as a pension would............... shhhhh.....................................shhhh.............................

avianscepter wrote:I can not speak for them, but I think there is this strange image of natives from the reservations.  They probably think you all wear ceremonial stuff all the time.  You know feathers in the hair and saying "How" and doing little hop scotches on the streets.  This is what I do know about some tribe.  They had special missions during World War II with a special com language that the axis could not decipher because of its base of nature.  I believe they integrated in too because they wanted to know how they got that language out.

Violet wrote:wisa ka who told you you couldnt have your own thread?

mac wrote:What a sourpuss - wonder why this member bothers to visit even on the odd occasion he does?

Wisa'ka wrote:

mac wrote:What a sourpuss - wonder why this member bothers to visit even on the odd occasion he does?

Odd occasion izzz?

And this from one who first saw the light of day after plopping out of a sourpuss. Did the doctor slap you on the arse or bean your already misshapen head with a ball pein hammer?

Happy spring macster.