PPrncpl7 wrote:Hello VioletViolet wrote:I went to a Christian Spiritualist church once, I felt very uncomfortable, it didn't feel right somehow and far too 'religious' if that makes sense. Anyone else been to one and what were your feelings?
I was 'hooked' in an SNU church, but was working away at the time, so spent the first 8 years of my development at a Christian Spiritualist Church!
They were a wonderful bunch of people and the only thing with hindsight that i am uncomfortable with is their intense dislike of the SNU.
Peter
they preached love and light but behaved completely different. They all had egos trying to dominate everyone else, it was like being in a playground at school.
Viking wrote:mac has said it all for me. Christianity is full of half truths, omissions, man-made contributions and down right lies.
There were many saviour Gods before Jesus. There is little doubt that he was very special but not in the way Christians portray him.
The central concept of Christianity is to do with what you believe ie that Jesus was THE son of God in a special way which doesn't include the rest of us and that he died on the cross for OUR sins. I don't accept that so I'm not a Christian. I set more store on how people behave, not on what they believe. Some of the kindest people I know are not Christians. If you're a spiritualist, you don't need Christianity.
But I don't believe you need to belong to a religion to be this person, we all have it within us, we just have to find it.
Joanie wrote:What is the difference between the SNU churches and other spiritualist churches?
I have heard this mentioned so many times,surely we are the same?
PPrncpl7 wrote:Hellopeaceandkarma wrote:I used to go to a SNU affiliate Spiritualist Church and was a member of the SNU. The reason I stopped going is because I got fed up with all the messages that never come true. I can understand why the last goverment passed legislation against mediums because some people hang on every word they say. The SNU is against fortune telling and wants to promote prove that life goes on after physical death. I'm no longer a member of the SNU but I agree with them. Mediums like to tell everyone what is going to happen which to my experience with my messages never comes true. I still consider myself a Spiritualist, just not the same sort of Spiritualist as them. Mediums at Spiritualist Churchs have for this reason stopped me going to Spiritualist Churches. I was also a member of the Church committee put left after a few months. The reason for this was because they preached love and light but behaved completely different. They all had egos trying to dominate everyone else, it was like being in a playground at school.
I sympathise with all you have said--BUT!!!!!
Platform mediums in SNU churches are 'up against IT'!
We all want 'predictions'!! and they are charged with giving 'evidence' that we do NOT 'DIE'!
Sorry --but the medium is as GOOD as the congregation!
The 'congregation' must supply the energy for the medium to work in!!
IF NOT then ??????????????????????/
Peter
smilies37 wrote:PPrncpl7 wrote:Hellopeaceandkarma wrote:I used to go to a SNU affiliate Spiritualist Church and was a member of the SNU. The reason I stopped going is because I got fed up with all the messages that never come true. I can understand why the last goverment passed legislation against mediums because some people hang on every word they say. The SNU is against fortune telling and wants to promote prove that life goes on after physical death. I'm no longer a member of the SNU but I agree with them. Mediums like to tell everyone what is going to happen which to my experience with my messages never comes true. I still consider myself a Spiritualist, just not the same sort of Spiritualist as them. Mediums at Spiritualist Churchs have for this reason stopped me going to Spiritualist Churches. I was also a member of the Church committee put left after a few months. The reason for this was because they preached love and light but behaved completely different. They all had egos trying to dominate everyone else, it was like being in a playground at school.
I sympathise with all you have said--BUT!!!!!
Platform mediums in SNU churches are 'up against IT'!
We all want 'predictions'!! and they are charged with giving 'evidence' that we do NOT 'DIE'!
Sorry --but the medium is as GOOD as the congregation!
The 'congregation' must supply the energy for the medium to work in!!
IF NOT then ??????????????????????/
Peter
Imagine that all mediums were 100% accurate regarding readings about ones future. What then would be the point of our own existence here if we know all that would happen? It's like being told the story of a movie or book, that there is not much of a point to reading or viewing come to that - the enjoyments gone when the ending is revealed. However, these types of readings are just as said "predictions" nothing set in stone nor necessarily accurtrate predictions either. I get a great deal of enjoyment from the messages of love & humour! From my friends & family that bow live on the other side. It is the messages of inspiration that are to me the most important thing. Mediums can be wrong about predictions and though they won't reveal anything significantly bad (or rather they shouldn't) recipients can be bitterly disappointed that things don't necessarily turn out the way they wanted them. It is my personal opinion, for me it is non productive to get a predictive reading, since they can be wrong, and you can be left wondering too much, when you should actually be living your life - not waiting for it to happen.
Joanie wrote:I see,Mac,thanks.
Thought it may be something like that.
Financial support,I suppose.
So the churches which are independant,can more or less do what they wish within reason.
Like putting on display,certain artifacts of religion?
Joanie wrote:Talking about church premises,like halls,churches and other type of accomodation for meetings.
I have since been told that the spiritualist hall where I attend is rented to them from the Church of England.
The C of E actual church is a few feet away from spiritualist hall.
Makes one think,doesn't it?
smilies37 wrote:But I don't believe you need to belong to a religion to be this person, we all have it within us, we just have to find it.
skye wrote:smilies37 wrote:But I don't believe you need to belong to a religion to be this person, we all have it within us, we just have to find it.
Silver Birch once quoted 'There is no religion higher than service'.
It's one quote I wouldn't disagree with.
By the way,
twice i've tried to quote and reply to your whole post but it's only showing half of what I postedsmilies37 wrote: I agree with you. When I was a teenager, I lodged in a house with a landlady who was a born again Christian, who told me that all my mis-fortunes were owed to the fact that I was baptized in a Spiritualist Church. but I know that her words seemed more harmful than good to the very vulnerable and impressionable teenager that I was. I mean when things ever went wrong for me, the 'Devils work' quote was banded about me a lot & sometimes I didn't know whether I was coming or going!
This could have had an adverse effect on you, you must be quite strong to have got past this teenage years are never easy as it is without this kind of thing.
I admit I felt worthless & un-loved by God and many times wondered if my Landlady was right, and wonder if I should follow up her words & get baptised. I thought I may get protected by God, I wondered if my Landlady may have been right. However, I never did, and going to her church service on one occasion did not sit right with me. However, I sometimes heard a voice when I was young, that spoke my name to me when I was about to do something naughty or dangerous! Which would immediately stop me in my tracks & from what I was about to do! Lol - I just heard my name spoken quickly, un-recognizable as male or female that I can remember. I had this in my younger years too, i'm convinced now that it was some kind of guide/helper
Wow! Did u? It used to stop me right in my tracks & I would stand there feeling shocked & embarrassed that is been caught out! Just as if I was being confronted by a grown up after being caught in the act!! The last time I heard mmy name said was when I was 23, and oddly enough the day before is been discussing this with a friend. I was going through a bad patch in my life at the time, and it happened at night, just before I was settling down to go to sleep. I remember opening my eyes wide open & staying rigidly still as my eyes scanned the room without moving my head - in shock! Around that time, but (I don't remember exactly) when, I was upset one night & it felt like somebody sat on the side of my bed beside me, that snapped me out & finally around this time - I was about to go out & putting my coat on, when it felt as though my face was being brushed by someone's hand! It's pretty amazing & I don't know about you Violet, but you wish everyone was aware and was able to experience the essence of life in this way. I am very blessed. Tell me more about what happened to you.
I went to a SNU spiritulist church what a horrible atmosphere people thinking they are better than anyone else, i cant be doing with ppl like that.they are no better than anyone else, i have also been to a christian spiritulist church and i say spiritulism loosley, they were pray to god jesus heals jesus gives us messages etc, not something i believe in, i believe in The Great Spirit. have done all mu life and im not going to change my beliefs for anyone, according to the christian spiritulist church, you pray to god in his house, that is a load of rubbish you can pray to whom you want you dont neeed a building to pray.
Native spirit wrote:
i spent most of my time in a Healing sanctuary what a difference, people are a lot nicer,accept you for what you are not what they think you should or should not do,a couple that i know came up to me and told me i was doing the devils work and that i should go to their church to use my gifts to work for jesus, so i asked them if they think im doing the devils work why do they want me to join them,they couldnt answer says it all as far as im concerned
Namaste
Native spirit wrote:
i spent most of my time in a Healing sanctuary what a difference, people are a lot nicer,accept you for what you are not what they think you should or should not do,a couple that i know came up to me and told me i was doing the devils work and that i should go to their church to use my gifts to work for jesus, so i asked them if they think im doing the devils work why do they want me to join them,they couldnt answer says it all as far as im concerned
Namaste
