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    Post  Violet Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:50 pm

    Has anyone ever had any luck in tracing a missing person using their abilities, and when such people are on the news do you ever get 'feelings' about them or what might have happened to them and are your feelings ever confirmed later?



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    Post  guidinglight Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:29 am

    Violet wrote:Has anyone ever had any luck in tracing a missing person using their abilities, and when such people are on the news do you ever get 'feelings' about them or what might have happened to them and are your feelings ever confirmed later?
    Hi Violet,
    I do get certain feelings with some missing persons, a young boy went missing in rockingham just a suburb away from where i live we feared him already passed over, the police were looking for his body in rockingham and i got through his body was in Mandurah old road where i live now and it was confirmed when the police were notified that a person came across the body in the area i said it would be i also have been shown by spirit what has happened to them and how they have been killed and have been right when the news is released about their deaths not with all the disturbing details but how they have died.

    I have sent off quite a bit of information to the police with other cases including the Lloyd Rayney the big knob Barrister husband, who is the main suspect in the disappearance of his wife Corryne Rayney who was murdered he is waiting to go on trial now and i think that will be very interesting i cant wait for the court case for that one.Sometimes i wish i could do more to help the police but unless you are a known psychic and have been approved and excepted to work for the police they dont really show interest in what you say but i still send off what spirit gives me that might help them its up to them to ignore it or take some notice of it.
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    Post  mac Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:04 pm

    It may be frustrating for those who feel they have something to offer in terms of their psychic abilities but until one establishes a track record of usefulness and accuracy, the police are unlikely to take much notice.

    It's a field full of anecdotes about who knew what about whom or what yet rarely is accurate clairvoyant detail supplied before the facts emerge. Take Mark Dutroux in Belgium (see online for various reports) a paedophile who was missed because of the Belgian police's bungling. On one occasion he had abducted two girls who psychics later said were still alive. When the facts eventually emerged it was found that both girls were already dead at the time the psychics had declared them alive.

    Is there any wonder that police are reluctant to waste resources?
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:21 pm

    Also the fact,Mac that those psychics usually end up on the 'suspicious' list to be the first to be checked by the police.

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    Post  mac Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:07 pm

    Joanie wrote:Also the fact,Mac that those psychics usually end up on the 'suspicious' list to be the first to be checked by the police.

    Joanie

    I have no knowledge about that, Joanie.

    I'm not suspicious about the often publicity-seeking individuals but I have deep misgivings about suggested or claimed psychic powers being deployed to find objects or people.

    At best psychics may just be deluded but they can be be deeply upsetting and grossly misleading when people are desperate for help.

    Yet I remain open to verified evidence that psychic powers have helped in a disappearance, a crime etc. Without that, whatever intuitions someone may claim to have had does not persuade me.

    I look at matters this way. Crimes and disappearances in this world are no more routinely discernible by discarnates than events in their world are discernible by ourselves. But perhaps events here are known about 'over there'? Were our discarnate friends allowed or encouraged to routinely assist in such activities, however, it might be expected there would be evidence of it. That kinda rules out any spiritual involvement for me.....

    If psychic awareness had led to successful outcomes, then those professing the powers would hardly be keeping it to themselves. Of course if they were keeping things quiet we'd never know anyway - quite a conundrum but in this self-serving, twittering, blogging world, how likely to happen is that! Missing People 451437

    Perhaps the most high-profile case, that of Madeleine McCann, would be just the kind where 'psychic powers' might have been expected to assist. Lord knows there must have been psychics claiming all manner of things unless I'm very much mistaken.

    Yet four years on nothing has changed....
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:45 pm

    Seriously Mac,I remember watching a program some time ago,have a feeling it was an American medium who approached the police offering information on the whereabouts of a body of a missing person.
    I believe the medium was questioned and a vague suspicion of the medium was immediately felt because of the intimate knowledge of where the body was hidden.
    Description of the clothes was given and the surrounding area was searched.
    The body was found in that immediate area.
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    Post  mac Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:59 pm

    Joanie wrote:Seriously Mac,I remember watching a program some time ago,have a feeling it was an American medium who approached the police offering information on the whereabouts of a body of a missing person.
    I believe the medium was questioned and a vague suspicion of the medium was immediately felt because of the intimate knowledge of where the body was hidden.
    Description of the clothes was given and the surrounding area was searched.
    The body was found in that immediate area.
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    Ah I see what you mean about suspicious - understandable if the individual wasn't already familiar to the police. It would be interesting to study a complete analysis of a crime in which a psychic had contributed in some way to solving it.
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    Post  Violet Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:11 am

    Psychics often get ignored or mocked when passing on information, does anyone in the uk remember the weather prediction that Michael Fish recieved and famously refuted on tv and then whatever it was that was predicted happened?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Fish



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    Post  guidinglight Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:50 am

    mac wrote:
    Joanie wrote:Also the fact,Mac that those psychics usually end up on the 'suspicious' list to be the first to be checked by the police.

    Joanie

    I have no knowledge about that, Joanie.

    I'm not suspicious about the often publicity-seeking individuals but I have deep misgivings about suggested or claimed psychic powers being deployed to find objects or people.

    At best psychics may just be deluded but they can be be deeply upsetting and grossly misleading when people are desperate for help.

    Yet I remain open to verified evidence that psychic powers have helped in a disappearance, a crime etc. Without that, whatever intuitions someone may claim to have had does not persuade me.

    I look at matters this way. Crimes and disappearances in this world are no more routinely discernible by discarnates than events in their world are discernible by ourselves. But perhaps events here are known about 'over there'? Were our discarnate friends allowed or encouraged to routinely assist in such activities, however, it might be expected there would be evidence of it. That kinda rules out any spiritual involvement for me.....

    If psychic awareness had led to successful outcomes, then those professing the powers would hardly be keeping it to themselves. Of course if they were keeping things quiet we'd never know anyway - quite a conundrum but in this self-serving, twittering, blogging world, how likely to happen is that! Missing People 451437

    Perhaps the most high-profile case, that of Madeleine McCann, would be just the kind where 'psychic powers' might have been expected to assist. Lord knows there must have been psychics claiming all manner of things unless I'm very much mistaken.

    Yet four years on nothing has changed....
    We are damned if we do and damned if we dont, genuine psychics or meduims that arent known to the police or are in the public eye i find do the best and accurate work they offer their time and service free giving helpfull information to help bring justice to the victims of horrific crimes and kidnapping.
    I did receive through a piece of solid evidence before it was found and was part of the investigation over one and a half years later, i was shown a short handled shovel before it was found by a person who reported it to the police and was taken as part of the investigation to the murder in question, so that was before it was even found i sent off alot of information that has come through over time of the investigation that i knew about before it was made public.
    People like John Edwards and other well known psychics who make a fortune with their shows i dont hear of them offering their help to the police or the public free of charge they write books and seem only to want the big bucks i have never heard of anyone like that helping the police yet i have been only to glad to offer anything that spirit gives me that has proved to be solid and accurate but because i am not a celebrity or on t.v. and dont want any kind of recognition or publicity from any information i send in because i dont put my name to anything i send in to the police they may or may not take anynotice of anything i send in but they would see what i do send in is solid and accurate.
    Yet some paid pyschics dont live up to their name or worth that are on t.v. and want to be known as celebrities only to attract people to come and see them for readings and get paid alot of money for that because their ego's want only one thing fame and money i dont care about any of that all i care about is trying to help knowing what i do receive through is solid and would help the police if they choose to except that help, either way it doesnt matter i have done my spiritual work by sending off what i receive through and thats what it is about. All i can say is there are some very caring compassionate, honest, genuinely gifted people who give their time free to try and help those in need, they do not look for fame,recognition or money for thier services and i am proud to say i am one those such persons who try their very best to give from the heart to offer solid helpful information from spirit not wanting anything from that except knowing what help has been offered has done some good and i give my thanks to spirit for that i dont do anything except receive their help and it is given with much love and concern to see justice done.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:56 am

    Poor little Maddie.
    I do wonder where she is now,if she is still alive.
    I sincerely hope she is found very soon.
    Where's all these famous psychics?
    Can't one at least try?
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    Post  guidinglight Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:35 am

    Joanie wrote:Poor little Maddie.
    I do wonder where she is now,if she is still alive.
    I sincerely hope she is found very soon.
    Where's all these famous psychics?
    Can't one at least try?
    Hi Joanie, Missing People 15910
    So do i hope that little maddie is safe, well and will be reunited with her parents again.Her parents must be going through hell not knowing and i agree surely one famous well known psychic can use their abilites to help in such cases as missing children they shouldnt expect money or want money for doing so just do it because they have the abilites to help.
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    Post  guidinglight Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:45 am

    Violet wrote:Psychics often get ignored or mocked when passing on information, does anyone in the uk remember the weather prediction that Michael Fish recieved and famously refuted on tv and then whatever it was that was predicted happened?
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    Hi Violet,
    No i dont remember that, but i can relate to many psychics being put down or rejected because they are not known celebrities, on t.v. or have a name for being famous. It only seems to matter these days if you are on t.v. and have written a couple of books , that you get asked to help yet there are some people who are truly gifted who are willing to help those in need especially in missing children cases who are unknown dont want to be known, famous or look to be rewarded in any way for their help, they are just happy to have the abilitity to help and so some good where they can.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:29 pm

    guidinglight wrote:
    Joanie wrote:Poor little Maddie.
    I do wonder where she is now,if she is still alive.
    I sincerely hope she is found very soon.
    Where's all these famous psychics?
    Can't one at least try?
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    So do i hope that little maddie is safe, well and will be reunited with her parents again.Her parents must be going through hell not knowing and i agree surely one famous well known psychic can use their abilites to help in such cases as missing children they shouldnt expect money or want money for doing so just do it because they have the abilites to help.
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    Oh,I do agree with you,GuidingLight.
    So many could help.
    I do believe that psychics have approached the parents of Maddie.
    Not sure now whether they refused the help.
    Pity!
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    Post  mac Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:30 pm

    [quote="guidinglight"]
    Violet wrote:Psychics often get ignored or mocked when passing on information, does anyone in the uk remember the weather prediction that Michael Fish recieved and famously refuted on tv and then whatever it was that was predicted happened?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Fish[/quote]
    Hi Violet,
    No i dont remember that, but i can relate to many psychics being put down or rejected because they are not known celebrities, on t.v. or have a name for being famous. It only seems to matter these days if you are on t.v. and have written a couple of books , that you get asked to help yet there are some people who are truly gifted who are willing to help those in need especially in missing children cases who are unknown dont want to be known, famous or look to be rewarded in any way for their help, they are just happy to have the abilitity to help and so some good where they can.
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    To get this matter a little less incorrect, it wasn't a psychic weather prediction that Michael Fish had ignored. He said http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/content/articles/2007/04/16/great_storm_1987_michael_fish_feature.shtml that a viewer had contacted the weather centre to say she'd heard a weather report from elsewhere that a hurricane was on the way.

    Nothing related to psychic awareness.....
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    Post  mac Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:34 pm

    Joanie wrote:
    guidinglight wrote:
    Joanie wrote:Poor little Maddie.
    I do wonder where she is now,if she is still alive.
    I sincerely hope she is found very soon.
    Where's all these famous psychics?
    Can't one at least try?
    Hi Joanie, Missing People 15910
    So do i hope that little maddie is safe, well and will be reunited with her parents again.Her parents must be going through hell not knowing and i agree surely one famous well known psychic can use their abilites to help in such cases as missing children they shouldnt expect money or want money for doing so just do it because they have the abilites to help.
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    Oh,I do agree with you,GuidingLight.
    So many could help.
    I do believe that psychics have approached the parents of Maddie.
    Not sure now whether they refused the help.
    Pity!
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    The psychics who said the two Belgian girls in the Dutroux case were still alive had also approached their parents who, thankfully, had dismissed what the psychics told them.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:13 pm

    There you are then!
    No wonder there is doubt when psychics forecast.
    Spoils it for the genuine ones.
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    Post  Lynn Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:52 pm

    Violet wrote:Has anyone ever had any luck in tracing a missing person using their abilities, and when such people are on the news do you ever get 'feelings' about them or what might have happened to them and are your feelings ever confirmed later?


    Hello


    I do some case work and yes I have had successes and at times HAPPY successes. I know that if I am to HELP I am guided to put the New's on as it NEVER goes on in me home on a regular basis. I even do not like those missing person TV pop ups.

    The hardest part is KNOWING by "seeing" what has happenec but not being able to have the physical evidence back things up....so one simply helps the Spirit move forward knowing that JUSTICE comes in due time.

    The last one I worked on was for a child and that is the hardest of all being a Mom. I simply have to know that things happen for a reason and that there are at times lessons there we at the time do not understand.


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    Post  Violet Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:59 pm

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    Violet wrote:Psychics often get ignored or mocked when passing on information, does anyone in the uk remember the weather prediction that Michael Fish recieved and famously refuted on tv and then whatever it was that was predicted happened?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Fish[/quote]
    Hi Violet,
    No i dont remember that, but i can relate to many psychics being put down or rejected because they are not known celebrities, on t.v. or have a name for being famous. It only seems to matter these days if you are on t.v. and have written a couple of books , that you get asked to help yet there are some people who are truly gifted who are willing to help those in need especially in missing children cases who are unknown dont want to be known, famous or look to be rewarded in any way for their help, they are just happy to have the abilitity to help and so some good where they can.
    Love and light Missing People 348985

    To get this matter a little less incorrect, it wasn't a psychic weather prediction that Michael Fish had ignored. He said http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/content/articles/2007/04/16/great_storm_1987_michael_fish_feature.shtml that a viewer had contacted the weather centre to say she'd heard a weather report from elsewhere that a hurricane was on the way.

    Nothing related to psychic awareness.....

    Yes, I got that wrong, my apologies.



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