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lumas wrote:Science and spirituality are coming closer and closer together on our planet, and soon it will be discovered that the two were always one. It is the same dicipline, approached from different angles. It the study of life, and what life really is, exmined and explored from different perspectives.

Very soon now, science will confirm a great many things that spirituality has been telling us all along. When it does, the human race will be faced with ethical and philosophical decisions, the likes of which it has never been faced with before.
Spirituality has been saying to us that life is eternal, that we are imortal, and death is only a horizon. Science is now about to show that to us and to show us ways that we may push that horizoninto the very distant future.

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:Science and spirituality are coming closer and closer together on our planet, and soon it will be discovered that the two were always one. It is the same dicipline, approached from different angles. It the study of life, and what life really is, exmined and explored from different perspectives.

Very soon now, science will confirm a great many things that spirituality has been telling us all along. When it does, the human race will be faced with ethical and philosophical decisions, the likes of which it has never been faced with before.
Spirituality has been saying to us that life is eternal, that we are imortal, and death is only a horizon. Science is now about to show that to us and to show us ways that we may push that horizoninto the very distant future.

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:Science and spirituality are coming closer and closer together on our planet, and soon it will be discovered that the two were always one. It is the same dicipline, approached from different angles. It the study of life, and what life really is, exmined and explored from different perspectives.

Very soon now, science will confirm a great many things that spirituality has been telling us all along. When it does, the human race will be faced with ethical and philosophical decisions, the likes of which it has never been faced with before.
Spirituality has been saying to us that life is eternal, that we are imortal, and death is only a horizon. Science is now about to show that to us and to show us ways that we may push that horizoninto the very distant future.

so what are we going to do people? sit still? watch history repeat? come on wake up! how many news reels do you need to see? how many people do we need to put on a cross this time? seriously read my posts,! if you think I'm talking rubbish then tell me. if not then act tell your friends and loved ones to start a new world

psychoslice wrote:What doesn't die and what is eternal ?.

mac wrote:good grief!  The original thread is ancient!

mac wrote:

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:Science and spirituality are coming closer and closer together on our planet, and soon it will be discovered that the two were always one. It is the same dicipline, approached from different angles. It the study of life, and what life really is, exmined and explored from different perspectives.

Very soon now, science will confirm a great many things that spirituality has been telling us all along. When it does, the human race will be faced with ethical and philosophical decisions, the likes of which it has never been faced with before.
Spirituality has been saying to us that life is eternal, that we are imortal, and death is only a horizon. Science is now about to show that to us and to show us ways that we may push that horizoninto the very distant future.

so what are we going to do people? sit still? watch history repeat? come on wake up! how many news reels do you need to see? how many people do we need to put on a cross this time? seriously read my posts,! if you think I'm talking rubbish then tell me. if not then act tell your friends and loved ones to start a new world

Jeez - you really think you could change the world so simply?  oy vey....

lumas wrote:Not on my own but I could you could and so could everybody else walking this planet at the moment, what are you doing in that regard Mac? I will tell you Mac nothing other than to have a very opinionated view on anybody that is perusing that. Of course you are entitled to an opinion that’s exactly what forums are for but your remark just goes to show you haven’t read any of my posts properly at all otherwise you would realise they all refer to what we could do as a mass not as individuals. 

mac wrote:

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:Science and spirituality are coming closer and closer together on our planet, and soon it will be discovered that the two were always one. It is the same dicipline, approached from different angles. It the study of life, and what life really is, exmined and explored from different perspectives.

Very soon now, science will confirm a great many things that spirituality has been telling us all along. When it does, the human race will be faced with ethical and philosophical decisions, the likes of which it has never been faced with before.
Spirituality has been saying to us that life is eternal, that we are imortal, and death is only a horizon. Science is now about to show that to us and to show us ways that we may push that horizoninto the very distant future.

so what are we going to do people? sit still? watch history repeat? come on wake up! how many news reels do you need to see? how many people do we need to put on a cross this time? seriously read my posts,! if you think I'm talking rubbish then tell me. if not then act tell your friends and loved ones to start a new world

Jeez - you really think you could change the world so simply?  oy vey....

lumas wrote:

mac wrote:good grief!  The original thread is ancient!

Correct and your point is Mac.

lumas wrote:just read again and again and again and again and again until we get it!!!!

mac wrote:I'm rarely one for history and this thread began over 5 years ago - I'm not keen on bumping up old topics or needing to wade through old material. 

Brought up to date in a new thread with new ideas I might be tempted to offer my thoughts but not as this thread stands now.

mac wrote:

lumas wrote:just read again and again and again and again and again until we get it!!!!

Just continually re-reading something doesn't necessarily make it any more interesting, relevant or appealing.

mac wrote:I'm rarely one for history and this thread began over 5 years ago - I'm not keen on bumping up old topics or needing to wade through old material. 

Brought up to date in a new thread with new ideas I might be tempted to offer my thoughts but not as this thread stands now.

mac wrote:

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:Science and spirituality are coming closer and closer together on our planet, and soon it will be discovered that the two were always one. It is the same dicipline, approached from different angles. It the study of life, and what life really is, exmined and explored from different perspectives.

Very soon now, science will confirm a great many things that spirituality has been telling us all along. When it does, the human race will be faced with ethical and philosophical decisions, the likes of which it has never been faced with before.
Spirituality has been saying to us that life is eternal, that we are imortal, and death is only a horizon. Science is now about to show that to us and to show us ways that we may push that horizoninto the very distant future.

so what are we going to do people? sit still? watch history repeat? come on wake up! how many news reels do you need to see? how many people do we need to put on a cross this time? seriously read my posts,! if you think I'm talking rubbish then tell me. if not then act tell your friends and loved ones to start a new world

Jeez - you really think you could change the world so simply?  oy vey....

lumas wrote:

psychoslice wrote:What doesn't die and what is eternal ?.

In my humble opinion, nothing ever dies and everything is eternal (absolutely everything)

psychoslice wrote:

lumas wrote:

psychoslice wrote:What doesn't die and what is eternal ?.

In my humble opinion, nothing ever dies and everything is eternal (absolutely everything)

I see things dying such as our body, but I see the pure Source or Consciousness which our body arises from eternal, and only that.

lumas wrote:

mac wrote:I'm rarely one for history and this thread began over 5 years ago - I'm not keen on bumping up old topics or needing to wade through old material. 

Brought up to date in a new thread with new ideas I might be tempted to offer my thoughts but not as this thread stands now.

Then don’t bump up an old topic,

 

Was it I who did that?

if it’s content doesn’t resonate with you or you think it’s “ old guff “ to use one of your derogatory quotes then have the decency to keep your comments to yourself,

Now you're telling me how to behave and I don't care for that.  On an open forum we each have the right - within website rules - to say what we think.  Others don't get to tell us what we should keep to ourselves.

Howeverver to answer your statement being brought up to date with new ideas that’s all my posts contained was new ideas new ideas about respect, it was new ideas about how we look at religion, what we believe and what we understand about God. If you actually took the time to read them properly you would have understood this and you would have understood at no time did I actually state that I could or think I could do any of that on my own. But it only takes one person to take forward what I have posted believe in it and pass that on then I will have achieved what I came on this site to do “pass on spiritual inspiration “ so my “bumping up old topics” is for people who may not have seen those posts and want to engage in some civil conversation about spiritual matters after all this is what this forum was designed for I think you will agree.

I will continue to hold my view about old threads and continue to express my reservations that they have run their course.  In passing I'll also mention that some websites actually lock old topic threads after a certain age so just maybe others see things as I do.  It would have been better in my view to start a new thread with fresh material if you do have any new material - simply re-stating or bumping up an old thread achieves what?  We've read it all before BUT if I see new members, new contributions, flooding in to this thread, folk stimulated into responding then I'll be happy to say I was wrong - deal?

You asked me where I had been for the last five years and I will tell you. I lost my 27 year old son after he collapsed on completing a marathon in Dublin, a short while later I lost my step father after a long long battle with cancer and very shortly after that I lost not only a very close friend but the human being that introduced me to spiritualism when I was ten years old and that was the straw that broke the camels back, I literally lost my faith and have questioned my very existence since,

I'm sorry you've had such a dreadful few years resulting in your loss of conviction about the essence of this life - the survival of all of us past physical death.  In that short paragraph there was much to help others who might be facing similar loss yet you hadn't mentioned it before and that's a shame.

but I kept reading those messages and truths that I had passed on to so many and they restored my faith so much that I want to help as many people as I can to realise there is hope, we all have a purpose we just need to realise why we are here and So I returned to this site to share what I believe to be true and those writings that I feel strongly about should be continued to be passed on and as a free spirit I think that is my right and this is the rightful place to do that.

There are many way of helping others.  The elelents of truth contained in the words of this thread when it was active are as valid as they ever were because what's true never changes.  But their presentation, their context, can  - and perhaps should - change, just as we change ourselves. 

I've been writing online about matters spiritual since 2003 and during that time I've come to realise it's no good my trotting out the same old stuff in the same old way I used to do 15 years ago.  I've changed the way I present those few elements of the bigger picture I've managed to pick up over 30 odd years and carry forward with me.  I've realised they don't always work for others but most importantly for me I've realised that their context is all important if they're ever to help others.  Hence I've changed my delivery and I encourage others to consider doing that too.

mac wrote:

lumas wrote:

mac wrote:I'm rarely one for history and this thread began over 5 years ago - I'm not keen on bumping up old topics or needing to wade through old material. 

Brought up to date in a new thread with new ideas I might be tempted to offer my thoughts but not as this thread stands now.

Then don’t bump up an old topic,

 

Was it I who did that?

if it’s content doesn’t resonate with you or you think it’s “ old guff “ to use one of your derogatory quotes then have the decency to keep your comments to yourself,

Now you're telling me how to behave and I don't care for that.  On an open forum we each have the right - within website rules - to say what we think.  Others don't get to tell us what we should keep to ourselves.

Howeverver to answer your statement being brought up to date with new ideas that’s all my posts contained was new ideas new ideas about respect, it was new ideas about how we look at religion, what we believe and what we understand about God. If you actually took the time to read them properly you would have understood this and you would have understood at no time did I actually state that I could or think I could do any of that on my own. But it only takes one person to take forward what I have posted believe in it and pass that on then I will have achieved what I came on this site to do “pass on spiritual inspiration “ so my “bumping up old topics” is for people who may not have seen those posts and want to engage in some civil conversation about spiritual matters after all this is what this forum was designed for I think you will agree.

I will continue to hold my view about old threads and continue to express my reservations that they have run their course.  In passing I'll also mention that some websites actually lock old topic threads after a certain age so just maybe others see things as I do.  It would have been better in my view to start a new thread with fresh material if you do have any new material - simply re-stating or bumping up an old thread achieves what?  We've read it all before BUT if I see new members, new contributions, flooding in to this thread, folk stimulated into responding then I'll be happy to say I was wrong - deal?

You asked me where I had been for the last five years and I will tell you. I lost my 27 year old son after he collapsed on completing a marathon in Dublin, a short while later I lost my step father after a long long battle with cancer and very shortly after that I lost not only a very close friend but the human being that introduced me to spiritualism when I was ten years old and that was the straw that broke the camels back, I literally lost my faith and have questioned my very existence since,

I'm sorry you've had such a dreadful few years resulting in your loss of conviction about the essence of this life - the survival of all of us past physical death.  In that short paragraph there was much to help others who might be facing similar loss yet you hadn't mentioned it before and that's a shame.

but I kept reading those messages and truths that I had passed on to so many and they restored my faith so much that I want to help as many people as I can to realise there is hope, we all have a purpose we just need to realise why we are here and So I returned to this site to share what I believe to be true and those writings that I feel strongly about should be continued to be passed on and as a free spirit I think that is my right and this is the rightful place to do that.

There are many way of helping others.  The elelents of truth contained in the words of this thread when it was active are as valid as they ever were because what's true never changes.  But their presentation, their context, can  - and perhaps should - change, just as we change ourselves. 

I've been writing online about matters spiritual since 2003 and during that time I've come to realise it's no good my trotting out the same old stuff in the same old way I used to do 15 years ago.  I've changed the way I present those few elements of the bigger picture I've managed to pick up over 30 odd years and carry forward with me.  I've realised they don't always work for others but most importantly for me I've realised that their context is all important if they're ever to help others.  Hence I've changed my delivery and I encourage others to consider doing that too.

lumas wrote:

mac wrote:

lumas wrote:

mac wrote:I'm rarely one for history and this thread began over 5 years ago - I'm not keen on bumping up old topics or needing to wade through old material. 

Brought up to date in a new thread with new ideas I might be tempted to offer my thoughts but not as this thread stands now.

Then don’t bump up an old topic,

 

Was it I who did that?

if it’s content doesn’t resonate with you or you think it’s “ old guff “ to use one of your derogatory quotes then have the decency to keep your comments to yourself,

Now you're telling me how to behave and I don't care for that.  On an open forum we each have the right - within website rules - to say what we think.  Others don't get to tell us what we should keep to ourselves.

Howeverver to answer your statement being brought up to date with new ideas that’s all my posts contained was new ideas new ideas about respect, it was new ideas about how we look at religion, what we believe and what we understand about God. If you actually took the time to read them properly you would have understood this and you would have understood at no time did I actually state that I could or think I could do any of that on my own. But it only takes one person to take forward what I have posted believe in it and pass that on then I will have achieved what I came on this site to do “pass on spiritual inspiration “ so my “bumping up old topics” is for people who may not have seen those posts and want to engage in some civil conversation about spiritual matters after all this is what this forum was designed for I think you will agree.

I will continue to hold my view about old threads and continue to express my reservations that they have run their course.  In passing I'll also mention that some websites actually lock old topic threads after a certain age so just maybe others see things as I do.  It would have been better in my view to start a new thread with fresh material if you do have any new material - simply re-stating or bumping up an old thread achieves what?  We've read it all before BUT if I see new members, new contributions, flooding in to this thread, folk stimulated into responding then I'll be happy to say I was wrong - deal?

You asked me where I had been for the last five years and I will tell you. I lost my 27 year old son after he collapsed on completing a marathon in Dublin, a short while later I lost my step father after a long long battle with cancer and very shortly after that I lost not only a very close friend but the human being that introduced me to spiritualism when I was ten years old and that was the straw that broke the camels back, I literally lost my faith and have questioned my very existence since,

I'm sorry you've had such a dreadful few years resulting in your loss of conviction about the essence of this life - the survival of all of us past physical death.  In that short paragraph there was much to help others who might be facing similar loss yet you hadn't mentioned it before and that's a shame.

but I kept reading those messages and truths that I had passed on to so many and they restored my faith so much that I want to help as many people as I can to realise there is hope, we all have a purpose we just need to realise why we are here and So I returned to this site to share what I believe to be true and those writings that I feel strongly about should be continued to be passed on and as a free spirit I think that is my right and this is the rightful place to do that.

There are many way of helping others.  The elelents of truth contained in the words of this thread when it was active are as valid as they ever were because what's true never changes.  But their presentation, their context, can  - and perhaps should - change, just as we change ourselves. 

I've been writing online about matters spiritual since 2003 and during that time I've come to realise it's no good my trotting out the same old stuff in the same old way I used to do 15 years ago.  I've changed the way I present those few elements of the bigger picture I've managed to pick up over 30 odd years and carry forward with me.  I've realised they don't always work for others but most importantly for me I've realised that their context is all important if they're ever to help others.  Hence I've changed my delivery and I encourage others to consider doing that too.

Not telling you how to behave Mac just requesting you don’t put derogitory remarks on my posts simple! You say you don’t bump old threads and there you are commenting on them with such quotes as Jeez - you really think you could change the world so simply?  oy vey   

lumas wrote:

mac wrote:

lumas wrote:

mac wrote:I'm rarely one for history and this thread began over 5 years ago - I'm not keen on bumping up old topics or needing to wade through old material. 

Brought up to date in a new thread with new ideas I might be tempted to offer my thoughts but not as this thread stands now.

Then don’t bump up an old topic,

 

Was it I who did that?

if it’s content doesn’t resonate with you or you think it’s “ old guff “ to use one of your derogatory quotes then have the decency to keep your comments to yourself,

Now you're telling me how to behave and I don't care for that.  On an open forum we each have the right - within website rules - to say what we think.  Others don't get to tell us what we should keep to ourselves.

Howeverver to answer your statement being brought up to date with new ideas that’s all my posts contained was new ideas new ideas about respect, it was new ideas about how we look at religion, what we believe and what we understand about God. If you actually took the time to read them properly you would have understood this and you would have understood at no time did I actually state that I could or think I could do any of that on my own. But it only takes one person to take forward what I have posted believe in it and pass that on then I will have achieved what I came on this site to do “pass on spiritual inspiration “ so my “bumping up old topics” is for people who may not have seen those posts and want to engage in some civil conversation about spiritual matters after all this is what this forum was designed for I think you will agree.

I will continue to hold my view about old threads and continue to express my reservations that they have run their course.  In passing I'll also mention that some websites actually lock old topic threads after a certain age so just maybe others see things as I do.  It would have been better in my view to start a new thread with fresh material if you do have any new material - simply re-stating or bumping up an old thread achieves what?  We've read it all before BUT if I see new members, new contributions, flooding in to this thread, folk stimulated into responding then I'll be happy to say I was wrong - deal?

You asked me where I had been for the last five years and I will tell you. I lost my 27 year old son after he collapsed on completing a marathon in Dublin, a short while later I lost my step father after a long long battle with cancer and very shortly after that I lost not only a very close friend but the human being that introduced me to spiritualism when I was ten years old and that was the straw that broke the camels back, I literally lost my faith and have questioned my very existence since,

I'm sorry you've had such a dreadful few years resulting in your loss of conviction about the essence of this life - the survival of all of us past physical death.  In that short paragraph there was much to help others who might be facing similar loss yet you hadn't mentioned it before and that's a shame.

but I kept reading those messages and truths that I had passed on to so many and they restored my faith so much that I want to help as many people as I can to realise there is hope, we all have a purpose we just need to realise why we are here and So I returned to this site to share what I believe to be true and those writings that I feel strongly about should be continued to be passed on and as a free spirit I think that is my right and this is the rightful place to do that.

There are many way of helping others.  The elelents of truth contained in the words of this thread when it was active are as valid as they ever were because what's true never changes.  But their presentation, their context, can  - and perhaps should - change, just as we change ourselves. 

I've been writing online about matters spiritual since 2003 and during that time I've come to realise it's no good my trotting out the same old stuff in the same old way I used to do 15 years ago.  I've changed the way I present those few elements of the bigger picture I've managed to pick up over 30 odd years and carry forward with me.  I've realised they don't always work for others but most importantly for me I've realised that their context is all important if they're ever to help others.  Hence I've changed my delivery and I encourage others to consider doing that too.

Not telling you how to behave Mac just requesting you don’t put derogitory remarks on my posts simple! You say you don’t bump old threads and there you are commenting on them with such quotes as Jeez - you really think you could change the world so simply?  oy vey   

lumas wrote:

lumas wrote:

mac wrote:

lumas wrote:

mac wrote:I'm rarely one for history and this thread began over 5 years ago - I'm not keen on bumping up old topics or needing to wade through old material. 

Brought up to date in a new thread with new ideas I might be tempted to offer my thoughts but not as this thread stands now.

Then don’t bump up an old topic,

 

Was it I who did that?

if it’s content doesn’t resonate with you or you think it’s “ old guff “ to use one of your derogatory quotes then have the decency to keep your comments to yourself,

Now you're telling me how to behave and I don't care for that.  On an open forum we each have the right - within website rules - to say what we think.  Others don't get to tell us what we should keep to ourselves.

Howeverver to answer your statement being brought up to date with new ideas that’s all my posts contained was new ideas new ideas about respect, it was new ideas about how we look at religion, what we believe and what we understand about God. If you actually took the time to read them properly you would have understood this and you would have understood at no time did I actually state that I could or think I could do any of that on my own. But it only takes one person to take forward what I have posted believe in it and pass that on then I will have achieved what I came on this site to do “pass on spiritual inspiration “ so my “bumping up old topics” is for people who may not have seen those posts and want to engage in some civil conversation about spiritual matters after all this is what this forum was designed for I think you will agree.

I will continue to hold my view about old threads and continue to express my reservations that they have run their course.  In passing I'll also mention that some websites actually lock old topic threads after a certain age so just maybe others see things as I do.  It would have been better in my view to start a new thread with fresh material if you do have any new material - simply re-stating or bumping up an old thread achieves what?  We've read it all before BUT if I see new members, new contributions, flooding in to this thread, folk stimulated into responding then I'll be happy to say I was wrong - deal?

You asked me where I had been for the last five years and I will tell you. I lost my 27 year old son after he collapsed on completing a marathon in Dublin, a short while later I lost my step father after a long long battle with cancer and very shortly after that I lost not only a very close friend but the human being that introduced me to spiritualism when I was ten years old and that was the straw that broke the camels back, I literally lost my faith and have questioned my very existence since,

I'm sorry you've had such a dreadful few years resulting in your loss of conviction about the essence of this life - the survival of all of us past physical death.  In that short paragraph there was much to help others who might be facing similar loss yet you hadn't mentioned it before and that's a shame.

but I kept reading those messages and truths that I had passed on to so many and they restored my faith so much that I want to help as many people as I can to realise there is hope, we all have a purpose we just need to realise why we are here and So I returned to this site to share what I believe to be true and those writings that I feel strongly about should be continued to be passed on and as a free spirit I think that is my right and this is the rightful place to do that.

There are many way of helping others.  The elelents of truth contained in the words of this thread when it was active are as valid as they ever were because what's true never changes.  But their presentation, their context, can  - and perhaps should - change, just as we change ourselves. 

I've been writing online about matters spiritual since 2003 and during that time I've come to realise it's no good my trotting out the same old stuff in the same old way I used to do 15 years ago.  I've changed the way I present those few elements of the bigger picture I've managed to pick up over 30 odd years and carry forward with me.  I've realised they don't always work for others but most importantly for me I've realised that their context is all important if they're ever to help others.  Hence I've changed my delivery and I encourage others to consider doing that too.

Not telling you how to behave Mac just requesting you don’t put derogitory remarks on my posts simple! You say you don’t bump old threads and there you are commenting on them with such quotes as Jeez - you really think you could change the world so simply?  oy vey   

I have not come back on this site to get into trivial arguments with the likes of you Mac, I have told you my intentions and that is to pass on to others my spiritual inspiration and if that involves dragging up old threads describing my beliefs then that is what I will do, if you want to get involved with decent spiritual conversation about them then I am happy to do that however if you don’t want to get involved and it annoys you that people bring up old threads about what they believe in and what they believe to be the truth then I ask that you don’t comment and moan about it please, not too much to ask is it?