Tips on Finding your Guide

Perseverance is key when attempting to find your guides, though it doesn't matter whether we actually see them or not as they are always with you and communicating with you, though not necessarily in the way you expect.

Meditation is good but you have to be dedicated, if your meds are hit and miss and just when you 'feel like it' you're not imo likely to acheive much, if you can't be bothered then why should they make the effort?

By committing yourself to one good meditation a week (at the same time each week wherever possible) you are in effect creating a series of appointments with your guides if you don't show up then why should they?

Meditating daily can become a chore, once a week won't, choose quality over quantity every time.

Also experiment with different music, insence, rooms, positions, lighting etc one very slight change can be all it needs to connect and is exactly how I found mine.

I'm going to have to sort out a day and time for meditation, during the day would be best I think, less disruption from mini me and the puppy. Good bit of advise that Violet cheers

You're welcome Rainbow, keep us posted

Hello
I have a simple visual that I have been told has good results that come from trying it out. I know of mine but recently understood two animals that have been around me be Guides too.
Prepare as one would for a meditation
Relax the body and the mind.
Envision one's self walking by a river. Its a sunny and warm day. There are flowers all around smell the fragrance, hear the river babbling along. Watch the water moving over White Stones. You are in a place of peace and balance.
In the distance on the other bank ye see a form coming closer to ye. It is ye's Guide. Slowly walk along getting ever closer, then if it feels comfortable to do so speak. Open ye's heart chaka and let their Love of ye flow in. The water keeps ye separate for the time and safe. In time when one is ready one can cross the river and walk as one.

Take things slow have patients and understaning that things take time . Too if the contact feels not safe simply say DONE and come out.
If mind chatter be an issue there is a simple visulaiztion to try for that as well.
Bookshelving
In the mind make a bookshelf take the wood and build it piece by piece. When its built on the wall take the items from ones day and from one's mind and place them there on the shelf. This can be things one has to do, or things that are on one's mind. Remembering that they are not cleared from one's mind they are simply placed safe for a time. Knowing that when one comes back out one simply takes the items back and takes down the shelf.

Too clear one's mind have it go blank for many is not real I have had many say in simply putting things as side that it has t he effect of letting on flow into meditation but too when one takes back the issues there they do not seem as daunting as one thought.
Lynn

Too clear one's mind have it go blank for many is not real I have had many say in simply putting things as side that it has t he effect of letting on flow into meditation but too when one takes back the issues there they do not seem as daunting as one thought.
Lynn

I completely agree Lynn I think you can become so focussed on trying to blank the mind, it creates a block in itself, I use a similar type of method. Thanks for sharing this

Thank you Lynn and Violet for these good tips, I do echo , that Meditation is big help. If as I do, You find it virtually impossible to clear my Mind, I visualise places..Any Place so long as it is idylic and then I wait to see who's around...Sometimes I stay on my own in the meditation, but more often than not someone comes along to say hello. Admittedly that is no guarantee that the person or animal I am interacting with during the meditation is a guide.

It's a good place to start though.

Meditation has got to be one of the best experiences ever I love it, and I have found guides using meditation as well as getting other information, thanks for sharing your tip here too Lightseeker.

I am genuinely interested in what you are saying here but I have a question that I'd like someone to answer. When you say you see someone across the river, aren't you just using your imagination? What I mean is I can do that in 2 seconds. In fact I can "see" a dozen people on the opposite bank-- anyone I want to see, but I'm only using my imagination, am I not? What am I missing? What is the vital factor which convinces you that it's real, that it's your guide? I simply don't understand this.It bothers me.I'd love to get past this point.

Hi Viking,

I would agree, In your imagination you can conjure any image you like. What it is for me, is that the environs are conjured by the imagination. Be it A Green pasture or simply a Room with a Door , Sat alongside a Babbling Stream, Or on a tropical Beach,
My Imagination created the environment (key to guided meditation is a destination). However once the basic construct is there I let go. Whatever happens in that Environment is spontaneous. From meeting an Angel to meeting a Wild Animal to meeting a Youngster or a Pensioner.
It was a very good and valid question, thank you for asking it.

Thanks, lightseeker.I know what you mean in a way but where does imagination stop and spiritual reality begin? Do you make a conscious decision on this yourself? If so, it is not spontaneous but fabricated. No? I still don't get it but it is not your task to break this barrier for me. I suppose I'll have to work it out for myself.

I prefer to call it visualisation, which imo is something we do naturally all the time, for example if I mention a clip in a film we've both seen you can 'replay' that clip in your mind fairly easily. That IS visualisation.

Also if you knew what I looked like and I was describing an incident that happened to me you could also get a fairly accurate visualisation of that incident in your mind, this is what guided meditation does, the talking creates and builds the scene usually a peaceful, idyllic scene in order to relax you, then in the same way Lightseeker describes 'letting go' at a certain point, a guided meditation will leave you alone in that scene for a while before guiding you back. What happens in that scene is spontaneous.
When someone meditates without the aid of a guiding voice imo generally they create a scene, it can be anywhere in the world once the scene is set you're away.

People can find it difficult to create the scene because of mental chatter but there are tips to help with that elsewhere in the forum.

You may like to try a guided meditation especially if you are working alone, some may be able to recommend some, in fact i'll create a thread for that purpose.


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I should add that in the scene you could ask for your guide to step forward or ask them to give you a word or a symbol, but please don't give up if you don't get anything straight away, it can take time, get the hang of visualising the special place first and just enjoy the tranquility, I also believe you can try too hard to meditate and block yourself.

That would be great, Violet. I look forward to it.

i think the thing is too, to start to put pieces of the puzzle together. like maybe you caught a glimpse of someone, maybe you sort of recognize something about them, maybe you see things when you close your eyes, shapes, maybe you hear someone call a name you don't know.........
i might try this lovely visualisation, because though i have seen many things, i don't know my own guides/ names........but in recent years and months (particularly) i have begun to notice some of the above...and started to think maybe these "people" have been trying to get my attention all along!
thanks for the nice visualistaion. nice for any reason.

Hello Viking,
It is a conscious decision to let go, most certainly. If I were to choose one of many rubbish analogy's.
Once I put the Christmas tree up and the decorations, I have created the appearance of Christmas, The appearance of Christmas is not in anyway able to give an indication of what kind of a Christmas it will be.
So in effect we simply set the stage.
I can give an example now of a guided meditation, a visualisation for You.
There's a Log cabin high up in the Rocky's. Its a nice enough day, Everything is in the Green, It's not Cold ,Someone is in the and you are a welcome guest. You knock on the door . The door is opened. By Someone(Who is up to you but be quick The Vision should arrive immediately. Who is it, What do they look Like? Do you know them ?)
Anyways you have established already who and what they are. Whatever happens in the ensuing visualisation you would part from them with a gift. Any Gift. (I got a Fob watch given me after being fed some stew)
Bring your Gift back with you, say if you feel like it who was your host and we will see what we can take from the experience. In many cases though. Especially initially The person in the log cabin will be someone you have missed for a while.(Alive or Passed Away) That's the nature of Spirit , Ephemeral.
Try to remember any discussion that you had, If you ate and drank whilst there try to remember what it was.
What was the decor on the inside of the log cabin? All these things can be interpreted and rendered a message from Spirit/Higher Self,Collective consciousness/Subconsciousness(Hey, I did say it was ephemeral :) )

All of the information you recall from this visit to the log cabin can be worked on in a way that you would try to interpret a dream.
Another time you could go off to a Tent in a desert of a Bedouin Tribesman, Or visit a Home in the Foot Hills of the Himalayas,

A Villa in Rome, A House in Lemuria. All of these Environs you need to visualise and use your imagination to create in your minds eye. But that's where it stops. All you know is that you may meet someone. You have no idea who it is, or what their message is.
With regard to Guides, I will say that they are in my experience very friendly , behave like your very best friend and even love you. They will also have the most infuriating habit of , when you present them with a problem that you could use an answer to, responding by saying things like, " What do you think you should do".
Don't take it personal though. It's simply that they cannot (According to their rules) live your life for you.
You can and do get to work through the issues with such sounding boards as guides and at length arrive at your own definitive answers.

Best Wishes and Good journeys to you.

Neville

You have one to a lot of trouble postin all that for my benefit and I thank you for your kindness.
While I was reading it, I was visualising the log cabin. When the door opened to my knock, who was there but
Santa himself but that was just cos you wrote about Xmas in your post. I'm honestly not trying to be difficult
but you see my problem? Association of ideas seems to come into it.If you had mentioned a living fire, I'd
likely have seen a coalman!!! . Sorry--I shouldn't joke. I do see things if I look inside my closed eyelids.
I see colours, shapes, tree branches and some movement. Once I saw in colours--a garden--in some detail.
The thing is I never just sit down and meditate. Funnily enough, I find that stressful. . That can't be right.
Seriously though-I will try what you suggest and what Violet posts.

Hi Viking,
Did Santa invite you in? Did Santa say anything? Did you get a present ?
As you said and quiet rightly , your mind took you to Santa, A very benevolent icon. It's good to go with it. Follow it through.
I wonder what Santa would have said to you. Especially if Santa was a representative image of the energy of one of your Spirit Guides.
I really don't mind writing to you, I think it's because I relate so well to what you view now as an obstacle. I think many of us get into a visualised scene in the initial stages of development and then see something that we initially think "Nah". It happens to us all, Our credulity becomes stretched.
It took me a little time to understand that imagination was not an obstacle or something different.
I was pleasantly surprised when I learned at length that imagination was an aid to the process.
But don't take my word for it, here's a quote that has inspired me for years now.
"Imagination finds a road to the realm of the Gods. And there we can glimpse that which is to be after the soul's liberation from the world of substance."
Kahlil Gibran.
Lebanese Philosopher and Mystic
1883-1931

Anyway It would be nice to see you embrace the imagination as a part of the process, because once we do, things really start to take off. If meditation stresses you. Simply put some soft unobtrusive music on, preferably free from lyrics, close your eyes and see where the music takes you. And who you meet.
It would be wonderful just to get you over this bump in the road. Even nicer If we could help see you over said bump.
I continue to wish you all the very best.
Here's a good one,
Imagine that you having a posh dinner party. Set the scene. All the Crystal, and best China is out.
Your Staff have prepared a beautiful meal. You have invited 4 to 6 very distinguished Guests from any group of people. Any one from Napoleon to Aunt Edna. These people from History ,stage,screen, family. You have always wanted to talk to. Have a conversation with.
Lose yourself in it.Enjoy it, Even if one of them is Santa or even one of his elves.
Remember it afterwards and see if you get message out of it.
All the best Neville

Hiya Viking and all

I joined a meditation circle at a Spiritualist church a few years ago. I went weekly for about 6 months or so. The meditations were along similar lines as mentioned here.

We had the old discussion about imagination and so on. The leader told us that her first guide when she started out many moons ago was Mickey Mouse. She was disheartened and frustrated by this - and very disbelieving. Only through the allowance of the possibility it was a guide dressed as MM did she come to take on board MM's teachings. She believed that the guide appeared thus so as not to scare her...and to make her feel at ease.

I had some interesting and wonderful experiences at that church. And I met a few characters along the way. After a time of doing these meditations, you start to discern what is and isn't your imagination. You learn just how much to control the experience...and when to allow it to unfold naturally (which is when the fun starts).

I do still struggle at times whether it was all "just my imagination". I think that's because I no longer meditate. I do miss those adventures...and yet I haven't got myself in gear to get going again. Not sure why not.

One guide (although I prefer to use the term 'non-physical friend') had me laughing my socks off quite involuntarily one time. I was sitting in a tree branch with him. He was just rolling a ciggie and I brought up the subject of doubting his realness, and whether I was simply imagining him. Quick as you like, he looked at me and said, 'I feel the same way about you, Sarah'. We had a good old giggle about that...and I nearly fell out of the tree.

Actually, just typing this stuff makes me want to get back into it.

I suppose ultimately if it is my imagination, then what's the harm if it is teaching me stuff?

Love Squatch

I've heard too that they will come in a guise you will accept at that time, in order not to frighten you.

Hi, Squatchit.Thanks for your post. If there was a spiritualist church in Orkney, I would do what you did. There isn't one.

There are none near me either, Viking.
In one of your posts you said you found meditating stressful and I
wondered if you did the preliminary deep breathing exercises? These are
not only relaxing but also help you to let go of any thoughts
cluttering up your mind, so you're open to visions. Not sure I put that
very well but you get my drift.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that, Deepwaters.Sometimes nothing happens. I haven't tried it for a while as I seemed to get no further with it.I didn't know what it meant or where it was likely to lead. I questioned its value. On the other hand, it
certainly wasn't imagination. There was no doubt that it wasn't coming from me. I had no control over what appeared to me or
how long it would last or how it would change into something else.We're talking seconds here.

Viking wrote:I wouldn't go so far as to say that, Deepwaters...

Say what, Viking?

I misread your last post earlier. I thought you were asking me if I saw visions.I should have seen that you didn't have a question mark there.I was being careless and skimming over the words. Sorry about that.

I tried this process again this morning before I got up. An elderly nun opened the door and asked me in. Inside was more like a cave than a room. It was very small and cluttered with all kinds of stuff. She offered me tea and a piece of coconut sponge.
It was very nice.I asked her why she was living in these conditions rather than more comfortable surroundings. She muttered something about past sins. She gave no details but at that point, I was scooped up through the ceiling into the fresh air. There was no more. What on earth was this all about?