2012...

Not my thing really, but I wondered what people think will happen in 2012?

There have been many thoughts on this. I have more or less formed a wait and see opinion on it. At the most, I think there will be a more pronounced energy shift than what we have experienced in the past.

I think 2013 calendars will be pretty cheap.

I believe the Mayans obtained or were gifted advance knowledge, in particular about Sirius but I 'feel' the humans have misread\nisinterpreted what they say is the Mayan Calender 2012. I know they are experts in there field but for me personally it doesnt 'feel' right. There will be a big event, a coming together as sorts, maybe not voluntarily but that wont be until about 2018. How do I know? I dont. That is the feel I have had for about three years now. I feel changes are coming for mankind and possibly looking at the world economy today, it has already started.
As for 2012, no offense to anybody, but there was a boom period about this two years ago where everybody jumped on it. A lot of commercialism went with it. I respect anyone who believes in 2012. I honestly hope its true.

About 10 years ago I would have believed in it wholeheartedly and spent a lot of energy in contemplation on it.
Now I have an awareness of it, but not going to make up my mind if it's true or not and live my life for today rather then looking that far in the future and putting a whole lot of energy and thought into it. I do occasionally contemplate it, but I contemplate a lot of things I come across in life and don't come to conclusions about any of it because I'm not an expert on it and don't know it first hand.

It is amazing how the mind seems to work, and jumps to the conclusions that it jumps to.. It doesn't help much that there is a big book that is called the Bible that predicts an Armageddon, and end of times. So now whenever there is something happening the mind quickly jumps to things because it's heard that it's supposed to happen.

It's interesting how the end of the Mayan calender is going to occur, and the mind quickly creates all these scenes in it's eye. Death, destruction, new life, birth, spiritual advancement.


It's all speculation since the Mayans aren't here right now we really can't ask them why. We can create our own scenarios, and claim that they are true.. But without Mayans being here, the original that wrote the calendar, we can't be sure.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking on our part. Like the Christians keep hope up that Jesus will return and save us all. We keep hope up that 2012 will be the change of an age. A golden heralding into a time of glory, peace, and happiness.

A Global Disaster From The Perfect Solar Storm


The average solar cycle lasts for eleven years. The cycle includes a minimum of solar activity and a maximum. The sun is unusually quiet right now and has been for some time but there should be an increase in solar activity at some point in the near future.


The best current scientific estimate for the next solar maximum is 2012. If this estimate is correct, there is still a few years to try and prevent the potential of a future global disaster. A disaster that would begin on the surface of the sun and could end with tragedy on earth.

The surface of the sun is a mass of plasma that contains highly charged energy particles. Once in a while, some of these particles escape the suns surface and a mass of plasma travels through space on thesolarwind. This process is known in scientific terms as a coronal mass ejection but it can also be called a solar storm.

A disaster for the planet would occur if a solar storm reaches and hits the earths magnetic shield in just the right way. If it were to happen, millions of people would lose their lives and the planet would be thrown into chaos as the technology that has become crucial to every day living suddenly gets taken away.

The perfect solar storm will start with skies that will be filled with a bright red aurora. However, soon everything will become dark as every electric bulb becomes devoid of light. The storms damage to the electric grid would be caused through an increased DC current. The runaway current would knock out and melt hundreds of key transformers within minutes, cutting off power for hundreds of millions of people.

Those damaged transformers cannot be repaired only replaced and installing a replacement takes a well-trained crew a week or more. Its incredible to consider that most major electrical utilities have just one or two suitably trained crews available for these type of transformer repairs. In addition, there are only a few spare transformers available and the rest would have to be built to order. Its a process that can take nearly twelve months.

So, the power blackout from the perfect solar storm would last for months but its not just the absence of light that would be the problem. Drinking water would still come through the taps for maybe half a day after the storm. With no electricity to pump water from reservoirs, there would be no more tap water after that.

The electric grid is necessary for almost all natural gas and fuel pipelines to operate. As a result, fuel and natural gas will quickly run out and without food delivery, supermarket shelves would soon become bare. Soon it would become necessary to control public hysteria and the military would have to be called in to restore civil order

There will be no power for heat, cooling or refrigeration until the grid is repaired and after their back up generators run out, hospitals will not be able to provide modern healthcare. A lack of water and food will result in spreading disease but Pharmaceutical companies without electricity will not be able to produce the necessary medicine.

Of course, many will say that this is absurd science fiction and it cannot happen here, but this chilling disaster scenario was outlined in a report released last January (funded by NASA) by the US National Academy of Sciences (NAS).

The fact is that a storm from the sun did hit the earth'smagnetic field in 1859. The effect of this solar storm on earth became known as the Carrington Event. The event was named after the amateur astronomer who observed two patches of intensely bright and white light emanating from a large group of sunspots that may have produced the event.

The solar storm that produced the Carrington Event created a red aurora across the planet from the poles to the tropics. Throughout the world, telegraph systems crashed, machines burst into flames, and electric shocks rendered operators unconscious. Compasses and other sensitive instruments reeled as if struck by a massive magnetic fist. It can happen again and the technology of the planet is now much more advanced and vulnerable.

The next solar maximum is estimated to return in about three years. A global disaster from the perfect solar storm can be prevented with proper contingency planning. There is still time for the government to be proactive and prepare to avoid disaster by creating a potential response to quickly repair the damage to the electric grid from the perfect solar storm.



http://www.articlesbase.com/technology-articles/a-global-disaster-from-the-perfect-solar-storm-853356.html

Powerful Solar Storm Could Shut Down U.S. for Months


Friday , January 09, 2009
By Robert Roy Britt


The report was commissioned and funded by NASA. Experts from around the world in industry, government and academia participated.

A new study from the National Academy of Sciences outlines grim possibilities on Earth for a worst-case scenario solar storm.
Damage to power grids and other communications systems could be catastrophic, the scientists conclude, with effects leading to a potential loss of governmental control of the situation.
The prediction is based in part on a major solar storm in 1859 that caused telegraph wires to short out in the United States and Europe, igniting widespread fires.
It was perhaps the worst in the past 200 years, according to the new study, and with the advent of modern power grids and satellites, much more is at risk.
"A contemporary repetition of the [1859] event would cause significantly more extensive (and possibly catastrophic) social and economic disruptions," the researchers conclude.
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'Command and control might be lost'
When the sun is in the active phase of its 11-year cycle, it can unleash powerful magnetic storms that disable satellites, threaten astronaut safety, and even disrupt communication systems on Earth.
The worst storms can knock out power grids by inducing currents that melt transformers.
Modern power grids are so interconnected that a big space storm — the type expected to occur about once a century — could cause a cascade of failures that would sweep across the United States, cutting power to 130 million people or more in this country alone, the new report concludes.
Such widespread power outages, though expected to be a rare possibility, would affect other vital systems.
"Impacts would be felt on interdependent infrastructures with, for example, potable water distribution affected within several hours; perishable foods and medications lost in 12-24 hours; immediate or eventual loss of heating/air conditioning, sewage disposal, phone service, transportation, fuel resupply and so on," the report states.
Outages could take months to fix, the researchers say. Banks might close, and trade with other countries might halt.
"Emergency services would be strained, and command and control might be lost," write the researchers, led by Daniel Baker, director of the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado in Boulder.
"Whether it is terrestrial catastrophes or extreme space weather incidents, the results can be devastating to modern societies that depend in a myriad of ways on advanced technological systems," Baker said in a statement released with the report.

Stormy past
Solar storms have had significant effects in modern time:
— In 1989, the sun unleashed a tempest that knocked out power to all of Quebec, Canada.
— A remarkable 2003 rampage included 10 major solar flares over a two-week period, knocking out two Earth-orbiting satellites and crippling an instrument aboard a Mars orbiter.
"Obviously, the sun is Earth's life blood," said Richard Fisher, director of the Heliophysics division at NASA. "To mitigate possible public safety issues, it is vital that we better understand extreme space weather events caused by the sun's activity."
"Space weather can produce solar storm electromagnetic fields that induce extreme currents in wires, disrupting power lines, causing wide-spread blackouts and affecting communication cables that support the Internet," the report states. "Severe space weather also produces solar energetic particles and the dislocation of the Earth's radiation belts, which can damage satellites used for commercial communications, global positioning and weather forecasting."

Rush to prepare
The race is on for better forecasting abilities, as the next peak in solar activity is expected to come around 2012.
While the sun is in a lull now, activity can flare up at any moment, and severe space weather — how severe, nobody knows — will ramp up a year or two before the peak.
Some scientists expect the next peak to bring more severe events than other recent peaks.
"A catastrophic failure of commercial and government infrastructure in space and on the ground can be mitigated through raising public awareness, improving vulnerable infrastructure and developing advanced forecasting capabilities," the report states. "Without preventive actions or plans, the trend of increased dependency on modern space-weather sensitive assets could make society more vulnerable in the future."


http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,478024,00.html

I found this article on MSN this morning. I find it very interesting that, more and more, all things point to 2012.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/New-bull-new-bubble-new-meltdown.aspx

Kaere wrote:I think 2013 calendars will be pretty cheap.

LOL.

Violet wrote:Not my thing really, but I wondered what people think will happen in 2012?

Hi Vi ,
I've seen the movie and rather enjoyed it. But with the rapid increase of earthquakes, volcanic activities, severe droughts and floods, changing weather climates, it makes me wonder.
Mal

Hi Akyana,
good one!!!

Mal

Hi Mal

Akyana wrote:

brilliant - the only sensible approach to the doom scenario...

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Akyana wrote:

Hiya everyone!
2012... Two years ago, this topic was a hot spot in my generation. Everyone was talking about how the world was going to end and what not. I was extremely convinced that we all were going to die. Then, I realized that the world was supposed to end in 1997, 2000, 2001, and 2004. I believe the end of the world is just a scam for people who are a lot wiser to make money. Like, people are writing books on how to survive the apocalypse, to teach you about it, ECT. Don't people see scam in bold print? Eh, I’m getting worked up. Soon it will be December 22, 2012 and everyone is going to be so happy the world didn't end. Then, the next apocalypse year will come and the same thing will happen again. It would be a shame for the world to end though. I've spent all my life in school -___-" There are my views on the day the world isn't going to end.

Panda wrote:Hiya everyone!
2012... Two years ago, this topic was a hot spot in my generation. Everyone was talking about how the world was going to end and what not. I was extremely convinced that we all were going to die. Then, I realized that the world was supposed to end in 1997, 2000, 2001, and 2004. I believe the end of the world is just a scam for people who are a lot wiser to make money. Like, people are writing books on how to survive the apocalypse, to teach you about it, ECT. Don't people see scam in bold print? Eh, I’m getting worked up. Soon it will be December 22, 2012 and everyone is going to be so happy the world didn't end. Then, the next apocalypse year will come and the same thing will happen again. It would be a shame for the world to end though. I've spent all my life in school -___-" There are my views on the day the world isn't going to end.

What is very strange is that its not just the Mayans that for see this, it is the Hopi Indians, Nostradamis, I-Ching, The "current" web bot project, some even with ancient Egyptian writings and the Free Masons!!! WOW!!! It all seems to land around the same time. What is real funny about the web project is that 5 months towards the end of summer of 2012 the data is BLANK, and the programmers do not know why? Even science is seeing that there will be a massive solar storm that will be much bigger than the one that hit us in 2001. This happens every 11 years, OK you do the math!!!

Now also keep in mind additionally to this is that our entire Galaxy, (not our solar system, I am talking our milky-way) yanoo our 125 million light year wide Galaxy is going to be in perfect alignment with guess what? Our planet!! Do ya think something’s happening now? I am not going to sell my home, but I am going to put quite allot of canned foods and water in my house within this next year!! (of course I already have been) So sorry Panda, I don’t think its just a money issue or that "extreme" over the board movie, this is in fact quite immense and I think will happen fairly soon but slow. I do not think it will happen over night, I think we still can get prepared (Out of respect, of my beliefs and yours, I did not even bring the Bible into this.) It’s already saturated!!

Here have a few cupcakes, just dont eat them (store them in your closet for now, you may need them....soon) hehe!!

I'll wager you a small sum - cos I don't want you upset when you lose! - that we'll be around in 2013 and worrying about the same world events that we worry about today.

I've lived through 25 years of predictions that something spiritually big is just around the corner, something that is gonna teach us all about everything to do with life, something that will be so monumental there'll be no way of missing it. Guess what - It's still just around the corner and I'm still waiting....

Well actually I'm not waiting because I know what's gonna happen but I ain't tellin' nobody! You'll just have to be patient and find out for yourselves - same as it ever was, as David Byrne sang....

The fantasists, the conspiracy theorists, the numerologists, the astrologists, the lovers of prediction and mysticism will do what they always do and link events, dates, numbers, star and planet alignments, predictions of all sorts et al and create for themselves the coming of the next Messiah, the end of all civilisations, the reversal of the magnetic poles or whatever else they want to happen.

2012 What does it all Mean ?
December 21 2012 or just the year 2012 send’s a cold chill down the spines of some…..why ?

To say simply I do not buy into it is like a cop out as I have been simmering on the back burner with this topic for sometime now. Time I be told to look at it and see what comes to me.

There is a wide variety of beliefs around 2012, spiritual awakenings or transformations, dark end of the World or Apocalyptic endings .

If one goes to the Mayan Calendar there will be a cataclysmic event December 21, 2012 which is said to be the end date of the Mayan Long Count calendar 5,125 cycle.

Thus the end of the World.

If one goes to more a NEW AGE view one finds ideas of transformations, that the Earth is going to go through a physical and spiritual change. That 2012 marks simply the beginning of a new era.

While others suggest that 2012 date marks the ‘End of the World” .

We all know full well that there is nothing but debris out there that could any time hit the Earth and wipe out life as we know it here, bring forth changes that we could not survive….too we know full well the Earth it self holds in its very crust the power to destroy life and that our man made devices too hold that power.

We can also look to the speculative predictions of Nostradamus in his book Les Prophesies that dates to 1555. Said to be a “seer” and ‘profit’ his ‘quatrains’ have rarely been out of print. Now in looking at this they can be made to fit events but the names and dates never exactly match up. (to me anyway).


Do I think the World will end on that day NO, do I fear the media coverage YES. Thinking back to the panic the mere year 2000 brought to the computer and other technology issues we have to wonder some on mass panic. More than that why do we worry so on what we CAN not bring forth a change on. IF the World does end on that date WHO will be here to report on it ?

Food for thought there will be no reporting ! We will be GONE. OR will we ?

The World yes is in a time of change and there is much to be hopeful for I feel. We have to see the value more in our Planet and the people on it too we have to better care for its resources. Maybe that be the lesson for us in 2012 . To work more as “WE” and less as “I”.


Lynn

Call me an ostrich if you like but I won't be changin' any of my plans on the strength of what 2012 is being bulled up to herald.

Wasn't it just two months ago that they were saying it was all miscalculated and it was all leading to the huge number of astronomical events that happened on Dec 21, 2010? Eclipse and planets all lined up just so...

I'm not going to fret about what might happen in two years - I'd rather put my efforts into bettering my world right now. If it's all going to end in two years, well...okee. I'll deal with that then. However, I might get a better camera before then!

Kaere wrote:Wasn't it just two months ago that they were saying it was all miscalculated and it was all leading to the huge number of astronomical events that happened on Dec 21, 2010? Eclipse and planets all lined up just so...

I'm not going to fret about what might happen in two years - I'd rather put my efforts into bettering my world right now. If it's all going to end in two years, well...okee. I'll deal with that then. However, I might get a better camera before then!

I'm with you - great photos maybe!

I see this whole thing as yet another concoction of the doom and gloom brigade together with the willing assistance of those who like to think they are special in that they have a means of acquiring info denied to ordinary mortals ie messages from angels etc.Some folk are never happy unless they are in a crisis.

Viking wrote:I see this whole thing as yet another concoction of the doom and gloom brigade together with the willing assistance of those who like to think they are special in that they have a means of acquiring info denied to ordinary mortals ie messages from angels etc.Some folk are never happy unless they are in a crisis.

...............life goes on regardless!