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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:42 am

    Constant wars and constant battles.

    Are we human or are we monsters?

    Watching the news on Sky this morning,for the first time I feel afraid of life.

    Sink holes appearing in countries,earth disappearing beneath our feet,what next?

    What other damage can be done to our beautiful earth planet?

    Killing in country after country,for the sake of killing.

    Anyone like to add something to this topic of murder and mayhem?
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    Post  1antique Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:13 am

    Sinkholes are not mysterious, they are a natural process. They form in two main ways...either the aquifers being depleted of water and collapsing from the weight above, or the erosion of the rock or soil beneath an area....such as when a water main breaks underground and washes away all the soil so that everything above collapses in on itself. They can also be caused when underground caverns collapse. They have been forming for millions of years. Here are a few...

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    They are beautiful when underwater, but scary when they happen near home.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:19 am

    Popped back in to answer your post,1antique....interesting.
    I understand what you are saying but why now are these events happening at this particular time?   Why not over a period of years bit by bit?

    Good to see you posting.....we need the posts.... :blush:   :giggles:
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    Post  1antique Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:29 am

    One of the big reasons that we are seeing so many sinkholes now is the depletion of the aquifers. Once the water underground is removed, the porous rock can no longer support the weight of the earth above it, and collapses.
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    Post  ameliorate Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:22 am

    The reason for sinkholes appearing in UK recently is a direct result of the flooding.  It is a particular
    kind of soil that is easily washed away, i.e. soluble rock like lime.  Hence areas that don't have this
    soil are unlikely to get these sinkholes.  Begs the question, how many of us know the underlying
    soil structure to where we live?   I guess those that do gardening would know.
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    Post  ameliorate Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:59 am

    Just to redress the balance here (since it is heavily weighed on the negative side), I make
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:17 pm

    Yes,I understand the reason for the sinkholes but the word 'sinkhole' itself was new to me....As far as I can remember,never heard this word before...
    Question....now that the coast line of the UK and other areas will be changing,I suppose we will need new road maps for the future...?
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:19 pm

    ameliorate wrote:Just to redress the balance here (since it is heavily weighed on the negative side), I make
    no apologies for repeating this link on random acts of kindness.  If you need ideas, click
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    http://www.randomactsofkindness.org/
    Nice site,Amy...worthwhile reading...thank you.... :asmile:
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    Post  Auras Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:42 pm

    This may come of as a silly question, But, where does a sinkhole lead to? Center of the earth xD
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:03 pm

    That I have no idea of,Auras....A sinkhole can go pretty deep....but how deep I don't know....
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    Post  mac Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:02 pm

    Auras wrote:This may come of as a silly question, But, where does a sinkhole lead to? Center of the earth xD
     no 

    It leads to the bottom of the hole, often no more than a maximum of tens of metres.
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    Post  1antique Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:19 pm

    That is very true, but there are a few notable exceptions.

    [th]No[/th][th]Name[/th][th]Country, region[/th][th]Max depth (m)[/th][th]Volume (million m³)[/th]
    1Xiaozhai tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality662119.349
    2Dashiwei tiankengChina, Guangxi61375
    3Crveno Jezero - Red LakeCroatia, Split-Dalmatia53030
    4Minyé sinkhole and cavePapua New Guinea, East New Britain51026
    5Haolong tiankengChina, Guangxi509110.0
    6Kavakuna sinkholePapua New Guinea, East New Britain48012
    7Taipingmiao tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality4209.9
    8Sótano del BarroMexico, Querétaro41015
    9Xiashiyuan tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality37331.5
    10Daluodang tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality37210.4
    11Sótano de las Golondrinas - Cave of the SwallowsMexico, San Luis Potosí3725
    12Tongtian tiankengChina, Guizhou3707.2
    13Longgang tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality3509.2
    14El Zacatón sinkholeMexico, Tamaulipas33910
    15Lomes LongmotIndonesia, West Papua330?
    16Jiaole tiankengChina, Guangxi32567.0
    17Dachang tiankengChina, Guizhou32010.0
    18Sima HumboldtVenezuela, Bolívar31421
    19Chuandong tiankengChina, Guangxi31211.7
    20Baidong tiankengChina, Guangxi3125.8
    21Naré sinkholePapua New Guinea, East New Britain3104.7
    22Atea dolinePapua New Guinea, Southern Highlands>300?
    23Kukumbu sinkholePapua New Guinea, West New Britain30075
    24Qingkou tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality2959.2
    25Datuo tiankengChina, Guangxi29032.7
    26Modro Jezero - Blue LakeCroatia, Split-Dalmatia29022
    27Xiaokeng tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality28612
    28Shenying tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality2859.7
    29Dengjiatuo tiankengChina, Guangxi27826.2
    30Qinlong tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality27631.7
    31Ora sinkholePapua New Guinea, East New Britain27526
    32Lago AzulBrazil, Goiás>274>4.3
    33Jiameng tiankengChina, Guangxi2711.6
    34Leang PuteIndonesia, South Sulawesi270?
    35Shiwangdong tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality2525.1
    36Lusé sinkholePapua New Guinea, East New Britain25061
    37Teiq sinkhole and caveOman, Dhofar Governorate25090
    38Xiaoyanwan tiankengChina, Sichuan24836
    39Sima MartelVenezuela, Bolívar248?
    40Yogoluk sinkholeIndonesia, West Papua2404
    41Bandong tiankengChina, Guizhou2402
    42Sendirian sinkholeMalaysia, Sarawak2402
    43Shenmu tiankengChina, Guangxi23413.2
    44Xiaoshui tiankengChina, Guizhou2302.8
    45Chadong tiankengChina, Guangxi22513.3
    46Bikbik Vuvu sinkholePapua New Guinea, East New Britain2251.5
    47Dacaokou tiankengChina, Guizhou22025
    48Ladong tiankengChina, Guangxi2152.8
    49Zhongshiyuan tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality21434.8
    50Tawi Atair sinkhole and caveOman, Dhofar Governorate2110.975
    51Dean's Blue HoleBahamas, Long Island2031.1?
    52Hoya de las GuaguasMexico, San Luis Potosí20216
    53Bajiao tiankengChina, Guizhou1954.0
    54Niubizi tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality1953.5
    55Harwood HoleNew Zealand, Tasman Region183?
    56Xiaocaokou tiankengChina, Guizhou1803.3
    57Laowuji tiankengChina, Guangxi1718.3
    58Diaojing tiankengChina, Guangxi17012.6
    59Peruaçu North sinkholeBrazil, Minas Gerais17010
    60Chongtianyan tiankengChina, Chongqing Municipality1687
    61Shuijia tiankengChina, Guangxi1672.6
    62Velika DolinaSlovenia, Obalno-kraška1653.5
    63Huangjing tiankengChina, Guangxi1616.3
    64Wunung sinkholePapua New Guinea, East New Britain16024
    65Poipun sinkholePapua New Guinea, East New Britain1601.7
    66Majlis al JinnOman, Ash Sharqiah Region158.2>4
    67Peruaçu South sinkholeBrazil, Minas Gerais1505
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    Post  1antique Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:24 pm

    Forgot the link to the info and when I tried to add it, I kept getting that the post was too long: 

    http://www.wondermondo.com/Best/World/Sinkholes.htm
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:27 pm

    ameliorate wrote:Just to redress the balance here (since it is heavily weighed on the negative side), I make
    no apologies for repeating this link on random acts of kindness.  If you need ideas, click
    on the top grey toolbar "kindness ideas"

    http://www.randomactsofkindness.org/
    And so they should....'teach kindness in the classroom'.....
    it would make a great deal of difference to the younger generation...and the older generation who would be on the other side of it...
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:29 pm

    1antique wrote:Forgot the link to the info and when I tried to add it, I kept getting that the post was too long: 

    http://www.wondermondo.com/Best/World/Sinkholes.htm
    Where did I miss reading about those?    Or did I think they were just little pot holes?     :blush:
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    Post  1antique Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:30 pm

    I find them to be very fascinating.....
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    Post  ameliorate Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:34 pm

    There is a lot that is skewed with our world and leads to considerable suffering.  It would be easy just to be preoccupied with this and be ruled by negativity/fear.  I believe in the law of attraction, i.e. what you focus on you get more of.  It's very easy to find fault yet more rewarding/beneficial to focus on the positives in life.  I believe in doing what we can to effect a change for the better/make a difference, e.g. donations to worthwhile causes, voluntary work, being supportive to those in need...whatever.  What we can't influence or change I can have great compassion for but don't dwell on since it is counter productive and drains energy.

    We have choice but can easily forget that when swamped with emotion.  Let us remember and celebrate all that is good about humanity is principally what I am saying here.
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:47 pm

    I'm still worrying about the estate I live on.....all that rubbish underneath.  it may be packed solid but just how solid....
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    Post  ameliorate Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:14 pm

    SpiritVoices wrote:I'm still worrying about the estate I live on.....all that rubbish underneath.  it may be packed solid but just how solid....

    Since you know sinkholes are affected by porous rock, e.g. lime - have you tried finding out if the buildings are on this soil?  Local gardeners would know (as already mentioned in a previous post of mine here).
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    Post  SpiritVoices Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:30 pm

    All I was told when we moved in was that the small estate was built on the previous 'rubbish dump' outside of town.   A new dump was built nearer to the town for convenience of the public.
    Not sure what is underneath the estate but in summer we do get an awful lot of ants.   Rumours recently were that some of the bungalows were subsiding.

    Makes one wonder exactly what we are sitting on....think I will have a few words with the Estate manager tomorrow....
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    Post  Violet Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:44 pm

    Are we human or are we monsters?
    Oh we're all human, it's just that some behave in monstrous ways



    Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.
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    Post  GoldenOldie Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:41 pm

    I suspect most of us are monsters.   A monster blames others, hoards, bullies, excludes, justifies, etc.   This list of negativity goes on and on.   The question may be, how do we prevent ourselves from becoming monsters.   Most people do not ask this question of themselves.   As one lady indicated, we are what we are and we cannot change, so why should we question ourselves.
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    Post  Native spirit Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:54 pm

    We are all human some people should be called sub human for what they do destroy they are not happy to be part,of the human race that sees goodness in life,in people etc,all they want to do is to destroy ,for everyone to be part of the sub human race like themselves.its a good job we are all different and have a different belief to their own.the world is not evil  its the sub humans that make it so

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